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Steve K
10-15-2007, 12:12 PM
Orlando, FL - Advocates for the disabled are pushing Walt Disney World and SeaWorld Orlando to lift a ban on the use of Segways at the theme parks, saying the scooters give people who can't walk a degree of personal freedom not afforded by wheelchairs.

The parks say the scooters create safety hazards, and that disabled people are welcome at the attractions, just not on Segway Personal Transporters.

"We're not turning people away," Disney World spokeswoman Kim Prunty told the Orlando Sentinel for a story Saturday. "We're turning away a particular form of transportation."

The move to allow the two-wheeled, electric Segways at the park is coming mostly from an organization called Disability Rights Advocates for Technology, or DRAFT, which raises money to donate Segways to disabled U.S. military veterans and pushes for their acceptance.

James Nappier uses one. The 49-year-old petty officer in the Navy Reserve suffered leg and arm nerve damage in a May 2004 mortar attack in Ramadi, Iraq.

"It's been a godsend, because I can get out and get around on it," said Nappier, of Loxahatchee. "I try to take it all the places here I can."

Nappier said he has a sense of freedom on a Segway — and that standing on the upright scooter, he can look people in the eyes for the first time since he's been unable to walk.

Earlier this year, Epcot Center officials wouldn't let Nappier enter on his Segway, forcing him to use a wheelchair pushed by his wife, Lacey.

Many people who use prosthetics, and people who can stand but can't easily walk, — such as many people with multiple sclerosis — find Segways offer more mobility and dignity than wheelchairs, said DRAFT co-founder Jerry Kerr, 52.

Kerr, who suffered spinal-cord injuries in an accident and uses a Segway, estimates that at least 5,000 disabled people have purchased Segways to get around, up from a few hundred that he estimated three years ago.

Disney runs paid, guided Segway tours of Epcot and the Fort Wilderness campground, and has put many of its employees on Segways. But Disney officials said they see serious safety concerns if potentially untrained visitors are riding Segways on the same crowded walkways as toddlers, elderly persons and people with sight, hearing, mental or mobility disabilities.

They say they are also concerned that Segways can go more than 12 mph, much faster than most motorized wheelchairs.

"Our concern has continued to be the safety of all our guests and cast members," said Prunty, the Disney spokeswoman.

E-mail and telephone messages left for Bedford, N.H.-based Segway by The Associated Press were not immediately returned Saturday.

SeaWorld spokeswoman Becca Bides told the Sentinel the park had similar concerns and added that SeaWorld has thin paths and walkways of varying grades and construction, which may be ill-designed for Segways.

Universal Orlando permits disabled riders on Segways on a case-by-case basis, park officials said.

I actually have to agree with Disney on this one. Not only are most of the general public not used to driving/riding the Segway in large crowds, but I also think that people, regardless of injured or not, will abuse this privilege should it be allowed. Safety is the main priority and I can foresee some problems with them being allowed in theme parks.

Jake
10-15-2007, 12:25 PM
Don't you need to be able to stand to even ride one of these? So if you can't walk..you shouldn't be able to ride these either... Right?

If your disable get a wheelchair, simple as that.

Thrill Reconnoiter
10-15-2007, 03:15 PM
Who's up for some Segway races around the Epcot loop? :D

I agree, those Segway's do nothing but cause problems and will end up running over people (they go pretty darn fast too). If you can't walk, they invented the wheelchair for a reason. Props to these parks for keeping the ban in place.

Nate
10-15-2007, 03:17 PM
If your disable get a wheelchair, simple as that.

That's a little harsh. I think people should be able to have the choice to do what best helps them. I do agree with Disney though, Segway's can go pretty fast and if they limit it to everyone, then there shouldn't be a problem.

I don't like their defense of they might not be trained. If they are coming to the park on a Segway, I'm sure they know how to use it. It seems hypocritical to offer paying tours on a Segway, but not allow them by people who could really benefit from their use.

Thrill Reconnoiter
10-15-2007, 03:51 PM
I think the main ban is because you'd have people on Segway's trying to run over other people to get somewhere as fast as possible. Then those trying to take Segway's in the queue lines for rides, food, etc. While no more cumbersome than wheelchairs, Segways top out at 12.5mph versus a walking speed of 3mph...so you can see where I'm going with this.

I think most people have to remember, this is America where someone could be riding a Segway, run over about five people, fall down and hurt themselves...then try to sue the parks when it was their own fault!

Dan
10-15-2007, 05:32 PM
Maybe parks should rent the Segways out to disabled people...there is a setting to program in maximum speed, the parks could just have Segway set it permanently to say, 4mph. That's no more dangerous than a mechanical wheelchair...

Zonga
10-15-2007, 05:33 PM
The motorizes scooters have always seemed like a good option to me. They aren't a wheelchair but go as quickly as a powered one.

And I said it once and I'll say it again, all PR departments should have Segways.

Voyage100
10-16-2007, 03:43 AM
Every people has the right to enjoy all the rides and attractions with no discrimination. Walt Disney World and SeaWorld are now going to do the good deeds for all the special needs, I think. Segways are the bottom line for them to move around the park really fast, so I just would love to hope that it would come true.

3xinvert
10-16-2007, 10:03 AM
I'm going to agree with the parks on this one. They do bring up a good point on it being a safety hazard, with it going greater than 10mph. However, I have heard (I think someone said this before) that Segways can be programmed to go a certain speed, maximum. Or they could divide up the walkways, like SEGWAYS ONLY to the center so no one gets hurt. Or is that too discriminatory?

Jake
10-16-2007, 10:05 AM
I still don't understand how you can use a segway if you can't walk. Don't segway's require standing?

3xinvert
10-16-2007, 10:07 AM
In a way, yes. But if they have leg braces and velcro, couldn't they be able to use that to hold them upright? Or some sort of bracing system?

Jake
10-16-2007, 10:11 AM
I suppose that's a possibility.

I'll still stand by the fact that if people can't walk, they can get a wheelchair. It's only for one day, and I'm sure they'll survive not being able to use a segway.

sirloin
10-16-2007, 10:26 AM
Reading this article, I got this horrific mental image of a bajillion segways going everywhere at nearly top speed with no way of guiding traffic. I'm sure some of you have seen the mobscene that Disney can be during peak season. You really think throwing Segways in there is going to work? Disney would go bankrupt from lawsuits brought about by injuries sustained from Segway accidents. Bad idea any way you slice or dice it.

The Segway Grand Prix would be straight up awesome, though. Might make that Tomorrowland Raceway more exciting. ;)

Ryan, I accept the challenge for a SegWay race!

Note: I in no way have anything against Segways save that fatties will probably use them to avoid walking. They ooze laziness for some people. However, they're awesome in and of themselves. It's just that people will use them for all the wrong reasons and a mess will be created by permitting their use.

rcwhiz
10-17-2007, 02:57 PM
I have to agree with Disney and SeaWorld. This is would also annoy guests because I'm pretty sure, like I have encountered before, that if your walking in front of them and they have no way around and you don't move they will get impatient and mad that you wont move for them. Which really annoyed me and will annoy others because they expect you to give them special treatments, now not all of the people that have Segways are like that but there are quite a few people like that.