X2 - Tunnels dropped, Effects Stay - Pg 26

[Top Thrill Dragster]

http://www.sixflags.com/magicMountain/rides/X2.aspx




X launches into a new galaxy, becoming X2.



X, the world's first 4th dimension thrill ride, is once again pushing all limits and taking extreme to the next level in 2008. This $10 million investment features completely redesigned, sleeker trains and introduces all-new, innovative state-of-the-art visual, audio and sensory effects. X will move from the 4th dimension to the 5th and become X2!

With its 360° rotating seats and head-first, face down drops, X has been one of the most popular thrill rides on the planet. With the redesign, X2 will take you on a journey to a unique and
unchartered
dimension of extreme only Six Flags Magic Mountain can deliver.

Unlike traditional coasters where trains only parallel the track, X2 sends riders screaming around its 3,600-foot maze of steel track aboard massive wing-shaped trains where the seats extend off of the track to the sides of the vehicle, allowing them to independently rotate you head over heels, forward and backward creating a one-of-a-kind "don't know what to expect next" sensation. X2 launches the extreme thrills of X into a new dimension with the addition of a unique new tunnel and light experience that changes with every ride.

In order for the transformation to take place, X will close in late 2007, and X2 will launch in spring 2008.http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/RyanTTD/IMG_1364.jpg

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[Jake]

Wow! This looks freaking amazing! If this is executed correctly, I can see this being a HUGE success!

Great job Magic Mountain!

[thatdancingbear]

If you look at the stats, all you see is a new train and a tunnel with sound.

But besides that, do you think it will be repainted? Thats what I would look forward too the most (besides the new trains of course)...

[Jake]

It looks like it might get a new, red paint job, which would be pretty sweet. I love the logo as well, pretty sweet stuff.

[Tom]

Well this is great news. All my Shapiro bashing and look where it got me!! Wow, this sounds great! It is getting a new paint scheme, which will be a very nice change! All I can say is props to Six Flags. One downside is it most likely will be closed when I go in December and in March. $10 million is a lot of money, a ride at SFMM is finally receiving some TLC. I would take this over S:TE being painted any day.

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

Trains that work? I'll hold by breath, but I can see X climbing back up the polls again.

[Steve K]

If you look at the stats, all you see is a new train and a tunnel with sound.

That's not really accurate. If you look at the stats you will see the following:


NEW Innovative, state-of-the-art visual, audio and sensory effects. NEW tunnel and light experience.

They are listed separately and I would assume that 10mil USD goes a little bit further than new trains and 1 tunnel. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw some sort of build in audio system in the new trains. They wouldn't go out and make a point of saying theres this whole new audio/visual experience for just 1 tunnel. But I guess we'll wait and see.

[thatdancingbear]

Well, its all advertising... Visual and Sensory - Rotating Seats.

If there is new stuff, I'm happy! Im just saying, they aren't giving enough details to be sure...

[Tom]

I think we will see an audio system. $10 million is a lot of money for just trains, paint, and a tunnel. My main concern is that it probably wont open in Spring, probably more like late 2008 since it always has problems. Do you think there will be an elimination of the duel station and possibly a third train?

[RollermanDan]

There's been talks for a long time of a new loading and unloading system that will make things quicker. I'm hoping that they take advantage of that and update it.

[Exceller]

The new unloading and loading station, if done, should work very well from whay I can gather.

Do you guys think they will redo some of the queue in a way, or the outside of the station?

[Maxamillious]

This is most excellent news. Having an X2 is contradictory to Shapiro’s statement about, “no new Goliaths” in a round-about sort of way, but some TLC to this beast is nothing I’d be willing to pass up. :)

[apsterling]

Well, it's not really NEW by any means. I sure hope the sound added to it is a soundtrack- that'd be incredible!

[Sam]

This is awesome! New trains, more efficient loading procedure, this will surely be a major improvement. Lets hope these new trains will cut down on the roughness too. And as mentioned, I would love to see a new paint job or at least a fresh coat of paint for it. When I was there in July it looked awful.

Whatever happens, I hope it's open when I go down there in May 2008.

I wonder if this would count as a new credit ;)

[rollercoasterfreak91]

Wow. X is already one of my favorites. If they make it any better, I'll be impressed.
If they have a soundtrack, I think it'd be cool if they took a vote for who did it.

[Dan]

This looks awesome! I can't wait to see this change take place...hopefully the kinks in the ride that make it shoot down in polls will be fixed with this as discussed...a new paint job should be fun as well. Great idea Magic Mountain!

[Cody]

Wow! It looks like they are pushing it this time. At first I didn't think they had the money to do it.

[Tom]

There budget must haven been changed for the 2008 season. This and Thomas Town introduction next year, that's not cheap. The marketing team is probably having a field day with this! They get to re-market the parks biggest coaster, as well as market a new kiddie area.

[supremescreamer]

I'm guessing the tunnel will be at the bottom of the first drop since it is already dug out. I hope so anyway.

[GoliathOwnz]

This looks very interesting. Making X even more intense sounds awesome. Great job MM!

[vedved82491]

Very smart move I presume. By highlighting the biggest ride in the park, fixing it up, making it better, etc. and adding a children's section to the park focusing on the young bit, attendance will BOOM next year.

[thatdancingbear]

Im pretty sure it can use a drop floor station, so it doesn't need to rotate and have a second seat check...

IMO, In-Line dual stations, where each station is a load/unload platform...
Two Trains could run on a daily basis (although we know they will switch to one after a few months), and 3 trains could be plausible - if they could figure out how to keep them from stacking...

I don't know anything for sure, but this is what I've heard / think will happen.

[G-Force!]

^^Good for them, bad for us. Expect that line to be VERY long when it re-opens. As for the improvements, anything that will enhance the ride, I look forward to it. I only hope they pull this off in the right way.

[Goliath255]

I think the tunnel will be on the break run, since thats where the riders will be able to get a good glimpse of the effects etc.

And is it 2 or 3 new trains?

[rollercoasterfreek]

I haven't even been on the original X ride. This sounds like a cool upgrade though.

[Arez]

^^It will only have 2 trains.

But wow, this is awesome. I really wasn't expecting this..Great move by Magic Mountain. X has gotten to be really painful lately, so I'm glad it's returning to its former self.

-Alex

[Tom]

Is it CONFIRMED 2 trains? I would think they would try to fix the problem they had with 3 trains, I mean $10 million should fix it, they fixed it for Eejanaka. Would a TTD type load system work? 2 trains load at once, one goes to lift as other pulls forward and once it hits first block, next train goes, as the third train comes in right behind it. Only in a perfect load system....

[Nate]

I'm not sure I entirely understand why they decided to do this. Yes I know it needs new trains and a better loading/unloading arrangement, but the whole X2 idea is kind of pointless. The lights, tunnel, and possibly the music do nothing for me. You are not really even going to be able to appreciate the tunnel on the majority of the ride.

They have already invested millions upon millions, another 10 million sees a little absurd if you ask me. X was fine as it was, in 4 dimensions. I guess the music, tunnel, and lights are purely for marketing, because who in the GP is going to care about new trains and loading procedures?

[sirloin]

If it means shorter wait times and a smoother ride experience, a good portion of them will care.

Also, bear in mind that many of the millions poured into it over the years were on minor band-aid solutions. This is a massive capital investment that shows that the park is taking the best steps they can think of to end the problems once and for all. X was a brilliant concept, but flawed in design. I'd like to think that with this investment, they'll be able to attract more attention to the 4th-dimension coaster, and with any luck, we'll start seeing these at more parks.

[Jake]

The only problem I can see is this. As of right now the GP does not have a problem with X (minus the obscene wait times). Re-marketing it as "X2" will make the GP think that this is going to be something drastically different. And if Six Flags ends up half-assing this it's gonna turn right around and bite them in the butt. With the proper execution this could do a lot of good for Six Flags, but if it's poorly executed.. expect the worst.

[Tom]

I was thinking last night, how could they spend $10 million on this, and I thought, could the lift be a tunnel from now on with some state of the art light and sound show going on? Likely? Not so much. But it would be unique thats for sure.

[rcwhiz]

Im pretty sure it can use a drop floor station, so it doesn't need to rotate and have a second seat check...

IMO, In-Line dual stations, where each station is a load/unload platform...
Two Trains could run on a daily basis (although we know they will switch to one after a few months), and 3 trains could be plausible - if they could figure out how to keep them from stacking...

I don't know anything for sure, but this is what I've heard / think will happen.


They might not need this since they say they are getting new trains for the ride which might get ride of having to do this. But thats if its new trains or just replacing the old ones with just a new pair of the same kind that they already have.

[RollermanDan]

If anyone else remembers a while back the early renderings of other 4th dimension coasters, it was the raven turn that had the tunnel. I'll try to find the photo to show.

http://web.archive.org/web/20030620102935/http://www.arrowdynamics.com/products/4D/delirium/1_lg.jpg

http://web.archive.org/web/20030620102935/http://www.arrowdynamics.com/products/4D/delirium/2_lg.jpg

[GeorgeBC]

Ooo, What an exciting and fantastic development, it's always fantastic to hear about things like this, it's only a good sign of the commitment the park operators have to improving their parks but it's also great for the park from a marketing point of view, which means better business and possibly a bit more investment into such things.

Certainly like the sounds of this whole "audio/visual" idea as I've not ridden X I cannot really say how the ride difference will change, but I'm still very interested into what this tunnel will entail and how they will exactly be utilizing audio with the ride.

[Dan]

Wow, great find Dan! As I said before, seeing the ride being renovated should be pretty interesting. I wonder what the extent of the effects will be on the coaster. We might see the normal Six Flags theme job, but if we get lucky we'll get some good stuff. Hopefully the park doesn't peter out (is that the right expression?) on this one and let the ride sit under renovation for years, lol.

[RollermanDan]

After hearing the future plans today, you'll all be really disappointed for X^2.

[Top Thrill Dragster]

^ Care to elaborate?:)

[thatdancingbear]

Im guessing no repaint, but new trains, and new speakers in the station (if it is bad news).

[Dive Loop Alex]

Last time I was SFMM X was still closed, I was always frusturated cause I wanted it to ride it again just to feel the expierence of a 4-D coaster, I've only actually been on X 3 times. Now they are redoing the 4-d coaster to "5-D" with 10 mill. to spend. If anyone has ever been on a coaster with some good audio/ visual effects it makes it really sick :P It really pumps you up for the coaster and makes even sweeter, Hopefully this will be yet another coaster revolutiuon for SFMM YAyyyy:P

[Sam]

My guess would be that the majority of the cost would be in the trains. Now I know that trains don't cost that much, but this will also cover the cost of the tunnel, new station, special effects, paint, and anything else to improve the experience. And with all the money that is being spent, new paint is just obvious. Probably a very similar color scheme so nothing too drastic.

I'll bet that there is no on board soundtrack for the trains like for Rockin Space Mountain because the ride is loud enough as it is, and is fairly short (time wise). So this means the sound effects they are talking about are inside the tunnel and maybe new station audio.

Dan probably just means that these are minor touch ups and we shouldn't get our hopes up for something big. ;)

[sirloin]

Well, I wouldn't expect much in the way of any massive alterations. Just some work to make the ride a little more reliable, and maybe a slight bit of theming here and there. Perhaps he's implying that it's not like they're extending the layout by another 1000 feet. Just some modifications for the sake of reliability, and a little bonus to go with it.

[RollermanDan]

^^Smart man.

[Dan]

If the new trains are all they are claimed to be at this point, I'll honestly be happy with that. The ride has gotten nothing but rougher since it opened, and new trains should really help with that.

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

I think it's necessary to point out that Eejanaika has been described as rougher than X, so if S&S is doing the new trains for X, let's not get over-excited.

[Tom]

Personally, I have been X many times, and I have been beat up one time, and that was the ride ops fault for making the restraints really weird and uncomfortable. Ya you move around a bit, big deal. Eejanaika is also a good deal taller, and longer, so it has more of a possibility in my eyes to be rougher.

[disneylhand]

^Eejanaika is barely longer...

-disneylhand

[Comet]

Eejanaika is also much newer, and therefore should be much smoother.

[Maxamillious]

^ However, as Ryan pointed out, it’s not.

My money (and $10,000,000) says that X will be repainted in the transformation to X2. New trains, a new tunnel and new audio/visual effects don’t measure up not to mention that Six Flags wouldn’t release a high quality logo rendering on their website for a new attraction, if it was inaccurate or if they didn’t mean business.

[thatdancingbear]

Everyone is saying sound in the tunnel, what kind of sound could you hear going 70 mph through a tunnel for less than a second?

Im still aiming for the station...

[mitchellPAUL]

Could lighter trains mean less car(s) per train...?

[Dive Loop Alex]

^ They can't kill the capacity, the wait was ridiculous all the time if anything they would make more cars per train, but I see your point they are "lighter"

[Tom]

Well the technology was too far ahead for its time for one, so to be able to completely support the wings, they had to add extra interior strength that would make it be able to work without problems. Someone correct me if I am wrong though. I remember reading when it was announced it said capacity would be 28, meaning same length. I think that is best but I do believe the Eejanika trains are much lighter then X trains, even with the extra rows X has removed. The weight of the trains IS the main problem with it.

[thatdancingbear]

After X's trains were modified, they all had a 200 pound difference in weight from each other. Im sure the new trains will be lighter by how they are put together and what parts are used, not by how many rows they incorporate...

I wonder if the new trains will still have the extra set of wheels on the back of the trains...

[Top Thrill Dragster]

I wonder if the new trains will still have the extra set of wheels on the back of the trains...The one in Japan dose, so most likely X will too.

[Skyler]

Is there any chance that anybody knows if X is closed down yet due to X2, I was hoping on getting in a ride this coming weekend.

[Top Thrill Dragster]

^ 12/2/07 is the last day of operation of X.

[Skyler]

^ 12/2/07 is the last day of operation of X.

Thank you so much, i really appreciate it.

[thatdancingbear]

^^, Who thinks we should all meet up and get out last rides in? And meet up again for the opening of X2?

[Jake]

I got my last ride Friday, and I'll be there (hopefully) for the opening of X2.

[Tom]

I am a little upset its closing before I can get my last ride in, since the last one I had was not the best one. O well, hopefully its open by March 08 so I can go on it over spring break!

[RollermanDan]

I think I might just head to the park on 12/2 to get my rides.

[Top Thrill Dragster]

New Color Scheme?

http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39687&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=190


If so it looks horrible.

[Arez]

Ew. I'm really hoping that those are not the real colors..It would make X look rediculous. Personally I'd love to see reverse Ejanaika colors, black track and dark red supports. :)

-Alex

[R.C.]

Compare the greens, they're pretty similar.

http://www.infinitethrills.com/_/11_12/Photos_files/Media/IMG_0152/IMG_0152.jpg
Photo Credit: infinitethrill

http://web.archive.org/web/20030620102935/http://www.arrowdynamics.com/products/4D/delirium/1_lg.jpg

Maybe they're going back towards the original paint scheme, although the blue doesn't fit.

[Zonga]

Wow, that green and blue combination looks terrible! lol

I honestly think the red would be the best, but then it would really blend in with Viper.

[Sam]

The final colors have not yet been confirmed. Those are merely tests which have been there for a while. I'm still hoping for blue supports, black spine, and red ties, rails. Though those colors in the rendering would be pretty cool too ;).

[Maxamillious]

What I’m not understanding is why Six Flags released a beautiful X2 logo when finial colors haven’t been decided upon yet. If it’s not going to be black and red… then why the fancy black and red logo…

[Michael]

^ I think they're pulling a Nantimi with us with the green and blue paint ;)

[Tom]

^^
All I can think is for marketing purposes to get the word out that they are doing something. The current X logo is Silver with a shade of blue shadow. I think a color such as Sage, a shade of green if anyone didn't know, would be cool for the rails. I was playing Halo and designing my character and sage is a pretty cool color. So like sage rails, crimson track, and black supports would look cool, or the idea sounds pretty good.

[Dive Loop Alex]

can't sorry guys for X-mas break maybe but it will be closed then sorry dudes

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

^Please punctuate.

I don't think it's really odd they went with the press release before colors have been finalized. I'm just hoping they don't go red like in the press release-that would kind of blend in with Viper.

[Top Thrill Dragster]

The New X2 Vehicles.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/RyanTTD/IMG_1364.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/RyanTTD/IMG_1363.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/RyanTTD/IMG_1362.jpg

http://www.coastercrew.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=109&pos=53

[Jake]

They're kind of ugly.. The plain metal steel is so.. Boring. Oh well, as long as they give a smoother ride, it's all good.

[Maxamillious]

^ That’s the frame. The plastic shell has yet to be added.

^^ Black seats, red rails. Wooo! I think we are one step closer to confirming that black and red will indeed be the new color scheme. :)

Edit: Never mind. Didn't see the blue on the seats.

[Tom]

I like the blue seats, they look awesome. I have a feeling the Viper repaint will be a different color than the red and white, with X being red now possibly. Red attracts the eye, so pretty much having the biggest coaster there red will attract many more people.

[vedved82491]

Ew to the blue. The original yellow purple and green combo is even worse. I still think the current color is the best, but if anything, Red and Black is the next best thing.

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

^ That’s the frame. The plastic shell has yet to be added.
Where did you see this? I doubt they're gonna' add any fiberglass body panels, especially if they don't have them at the show.

Of course more photos on the new X2 trains are forthcoming in RCPro's coverage of IAAPA Attractions Expo.

[rollercoasterfreak91]

Lime green would be a stupid descision, but since when is Viper getting a new paint job? What colors?
Hopefully we'll see a lot of new paint as SF has a new deal with that painting company.

[Michael]

^Same colors for Viper.

[Riddler]

I know you have mentioned that X closes 12/2/07, Ive heard rumor that it recently closed a week ago, Can anybody confirm if this is true?

[JD71]

I was at SFMM Friday November 9th, it was open.

[Riddler]

Ok, thank you, also does anybody know if the crowds at Magic Mountain are usually heavy during thanksgiving break, or if any rides are usually down? (I'm sorry to go off topic just curious if i should go this weekend or wait.) - Thanks!

[The Storm Runner]

It looks like the old trains of X with black supports in the picture on the car. The pictures really show though how much the cars spin per very little difference. The two X rails are almost exactly parallel, but the cars are at way different rotations.

[Top Thrill Dragster]

A clearer look at the new vehicles.

http://coastercrew.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=109&pos=15


http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/RyanTTD/iaapa_day_3_013.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/RyanTTD/iaapa_day_3_007.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/RyanTTD/iaapa_day_3_006.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/RyanTTD/iaapa_day_3_005.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/RyanTTD/iaapa_day_3_002.jpg

[Dan]

Ok, thank you, also does anybody know if the crowds at Magic Mountain are usually heavy during thanksgiving break, or if any rides are usually down? (I'm sorry to go off topic just curious if i should go this weekend or wait.) - Thanks!

It should be crowded, I'd wait.

Those trains do looks pretty nice to me. I'm still wondering if they will receive a fiberglass cover, I've read conflicting things.

[Top Thrill Dragster]

I would assume so, leaving the gears completely exposed to the elements cant be good for the ride.

[Tom]

Don't go on or around Thanksgiving, I went in the morning last year, it was really busy. I really do like those trains though.

[Riddler]

Bummer, already bought are tickets, i think we will be ok though.

[Dan]

Bummer, already bought are tickets, i think we will be ok though.

If you were going to buy the tickets before checking for responses, why did you ask?

[Riddler]

I am sorry, i was thinking of the wrong date, i am going before thanksgiving break starts.

[p0tat0]

Yippie, I know where im going for my spring break haha

edit: yup cancun, why go to SF? lol

As long as the trains work and the ride becomes less jerky

[thatdancingbear]

Wow, this thread got lost...

One thing I was thinking about. Once everything is ready for X2, will X's original trains (well, second if you want to call it that) still run on the track? Im guessing the proxy boxes might not be the same if there is any track work, or the rotations in the station, but if they dispatched a train, would it make it back?

[Arez]

^No, they won't be using the old trains anymore. I don't see why the old trains wouldn't make it around the track..no track work is being changed.

-Alex

[thatdancingbear]

Thats why I used the "If" word. :p

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

Wow, this thread got lost...

One thing I was thinking about. Once everything is ready for X2, will X's original trains (well, second if you want to call it that) still run on the track? Im guessing the proxy boxes might not be the same if there is any track work, or the rotations in the station, but if they dispatched a train, would it make it back?
I don't see what the purpose of this would even be? The old trains will come off the track as soon as the switch begins.

[Dan]

It's theoretical, and the answer would assist us in discovering the magnitude of this change...how big is the transition to X2, really? That question is a step toward finding out. If the old trains could run nicely and the rotations work the same, the park will have done about what I think they're doing.

[The Storm Runner]

^I thought X2 would get new trains no matter what? If not, then what would be the point of displaying them at IAAPA? http://www.rollercoasterpro.com/updates/iaapa07p2/14.shtml

And X was running at SFMM during the whole IAAPA, so those aren't X's old trains. Idk. False advertising? Though I doubt it...

[Dan]

X2 is getting new trains, I know. Read my post carefully...it's theoretical. If they change the ride a lot, the old trains wouldn't be able to run the track as they used to. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, I'm saying use it as a guide as to how much they're actually changing the ride. If the old trains would run on the track as usual (as I believe they would), it proves that very little has actually changed.

[p0tat0]

New trains and some aesthetics added... I don't think it's that amazing.... just the trains would help out X a lot!

[Sam]

The lighter trains will help improve the pacing of the ride more. Meaning that the transitions will be smoother. One thing that I noticed about the old X was how the trains would slow and speed up quite rapidly (this is called pumping, right?). The lighter trains will allow for a more even push/pull on the trains. However, if they are too light the trains will valley too easily. Lets hope they dont cut down these trains down to 5 cars like on Eejanaika. That ride looks like it has terrible pacing.

[sirloin]

Pumping is hard to put into words, but what you mentioned is not pumping as I have come to understand it.

Think of it this way. Say you're driving your car, and you're making a turn. All of a sudden, straighten out the wheel, and then jerk it back to where you originally had it. That's what pumping is, and it doesn't necessarily need to apply to turns.

What you described is basically just stop-and-go, which can be a bit of a problem on long trains of any sort (the SLC's have it real bad).

[thatdancingbear]

X's has started repainting. The ties on the first half half are now Viper red colored. I wasn't there today to take pictures, but thats all I could get in the description from my source.

I might make another trip out there soon for more updates...

[[[{{((thepimpvic))}}]]]

I hope this X2 thing
Is the first in a line up of GOOD Things
And improvements
Six flags needs
Because they are just goin downhill
But now with x2 I think after it'll improve big time

[Arez]

^ Was that supposed to be a poem?

-Alex

[Tom]

I will be there on Monday, so I will get some pictures.

[Norcal Twists]

Does anyone know where this tunnel is going to be?

[Goliath255]

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j174/pheonity/DSCN2736.jpg

[Comet]

Oh, so it's basically going to look like Eajanaika...that's unfortunate.

[JD71]

I don't see how its unfortunate, I personally like Eejanaika's paint scheme.

[Comet]

Because then it loses it's originality.

[Jake]

I don't really care about its originality, and even if I did, the GP wont, and they're really the only ones that matter. As long as the paint looks good, that's all that matters :).

[Comet]

In that case, if they repainted it yellow and pink the paint would still look good.
All that the new color scheme will do to the general public is confuse them.

[Jake]

Ah, but you forget, this will confuse them into thinking it's a whole new ride ;). That's the marketing ploy anyway.

[rollercoasterfreak91]

GP doesn't know much and the parks use that to their advantage. Have an accident on a ride? Rename it. Problem solved.
But how will 2 rides with red track right next to each other look?

[Brandon]

But how will 2 rides with red track right next to each other look?
Look at Knott's Berry Farm and you have your answer.

I really was hoping for a paint job that was different than Eejanaika. With Viper being right next to X, the two similar paint jobs really will clash, which isnt good. Looking at the logo, I can only hope that Six Flags has plans to inroduce some yellow into the paint scheme. Even if they do though, I have a feeling that not even that would save them from confusing the GP.

[Airtime&Gravity]

I like Eejasucks color scheme, and hopefully X2's turns out just as nice. Although I don't like how it is being billed as a new ride, X2 sounds like an improvement, and the modifications should make the ride more fun.

[Tom]

Was at the park today, no pictures, but the red looks REALLY good I think. My first thought when I heard red was CLASH! but after seeing it, the black supports will seperate it a bit. Also remember, 2 red rides next to each other is eye candy. Red attracts, so it will bring people over. At about 3 today they had about 1/4 of the half/half or whatever you call it and part of the turnaround going down where everyone complains its rough.

[Sam]

Theme Park Review has a full update including more pictures of the painting. (http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26782&start=2010)

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

Here comes Eejanaika, Here comes Eejanaika,
Right down MM Lane

Here comes Eejanaika, Here comes Eejanaika,
Right down MM Lane

Okay, I'm done. I'm glad it's getting a more neutral and less elaborate paint scheme, but really, this is no coincidence. I'm not sure why they wanted the only two 4D's to be the same color...

[p0tat0]

Eh, why not, X's old paint was just nasty

[Dan]

I'm not sure why they wanted the only two 4D's to be the same color...Probably so they wouldn't have to hire a color expert and pay them a few thousand bucks to choose another combination.

[Maxamillious]

The new paint is very cool. I’m not sure about the blue seats on the trains though. It’ll be hit-or-miss on how well the two clash.

[socalMAN123]

^ I think they might paint the seats on the train (or at least I hope they do, it would look really tacky) to match the track and supports. Anywho, I really like the color scheme, even though it is the same as Eejasuck 5,000 miles away.
---Brent :cool:

[disneylhand]

What's with all of the "Eejasucks" jokes?
I really don't see the humor.

-disneylhand

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

^I don't think anyone was saying Eejanaika is a bad ride, just commenting on the similarity in paint scheme...and I don't think it can be argued it was just coincidental. "They" did it so GP can't readily identify a difference between Eejanaika and X2.

Yes, the paint job looks good. However, if you want to sit here and be force-fed what the parks tell you to like, go for it, but everyone knows there are other paint schemes out there just as good/better.

[p0tat0]

You can also sit here and complain about paint =P

[Sam]

"They" did it so GP can't readily identify a difference between Eejanaika and X2.

Most of the GP have no clue what Eejanaika is. ;)

I personally have nothing against the colors chosen for X2. Dark red on black (well almost black) supports has always looked good to me. Sure, X may be losing its originality by not having a distinct color scheme, but this will certainly be more visually appealing than the faded pink and yellow.

[Youhow2]

but this will certainly be more visually appealing than the faded pink and yellow.


It's magenta man... magenta!:p

[IntaminFan007]

X will not look very good next to Viper with the same track color, and it will look exactly the same as Eejanaika

[The Storm Runner]

Didn't we know the new colors for X2 would be red and black when it was announced? :confused:

[Nisshoku1981]

What is so wrong with Eejanaika? This was an excellent ride. I think the idea to match the paint of X with Eejanaika is a great idea and it will certaintly make X look more vicious. I think Six Flags made a good decision by doing this. These are two different rides but are the same in a way as well. So for everyone that thinks this is a bad idea, help me to understand what is wrong with it. For the people that area complaining, have you actually been on Eejanaika?

I have encluded some pictures I post a year or two back when I went to Fuji-Q Highland to ride Eejanaika. Enjoy.

[Michael]

^They're just jealous ;)

But seriously, it is a great ride.

[Sam]

It's magenta man... magenta!:p
You must not have seen it in person in the last several years. ;)

And Mike, you haven't been on Eejanaika to know for sure, have you?...:p


Despite being next to Viper, the tracks are different shades of red and the supports will help contrast so it doesn't look weird.

[Nisshoku1981]

You must not have seen it in person in the last several years. ;)

And Mike, you haven't been on Eejanaika to know for sure, have you?...:p


Despite being next to Viper, the tracks are different shades of red and the supports will help contrast so it doesn't look weird.

Hey Sam, When was the last time you were at Fuji-Q Highland? Does it look beat up?

[Sam]

No, but I hear the ride beats you up. :p

I thought you were talking about the ride quality it's self, not the appearance. It looks fine.

[Nisshoku1981]

I think in general those kinds of rides are going to hurt you a bit. I got on the ride the day it opened and it was great. Was much smoother than X. Just as X started off very smooth it got bumpier over time. It's to be expected unfortunately.

[thatdancingbear]

I just got a flyer in the mail about X2.

"The Park's most popular coaster will re-emerge with the addition of a dark tunnel featuring sound and light Xperience, making it the world's first 5th dimension coaster."

Does that mean adding a tunnel to a third dimension coaster make it a 4'th? Nice advertising :p

Here is a pic of the card -

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9425/photo2to7.jpg

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

Does that mean adding a tunnel to a third dimension coaster make it a 4'th?
If X2 really became a 5D because of the sound and lights, then all dark rides already are 4D? http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif

[thatdancingbear]

^ According to them, Yes. Thats the beauty of GP, tell them what you want and they will believe. :)

[Nisshoku1981]

Nice avatar infinitethrill. I'm pretty excited to get back to Six Flags once X2 opens. I wonder if there will be another press event?

[Exceller]

I'm pretty sure another press event will be held. Remember, they're paying $10 million to make it a "5th dimension roller coaster."

On the other hand, I do like the new color scheme that they put out.

[thedeadfrog]

I'm wondering if RCDB is going to actualy classify this as a 5-d. But hey, we have a new coaster type for RCT4.

[GhostRider_Rules]

^I seriously hope not.
Shouldn't the tunnel and lights be considered part of the themeing anyway?

[Voyage100]

I'm not sure if they would be the part of X, but the tunnel would make more bigger thrills, as the riders can get a feel of being almost crashed into there. Lights could be the very thing that can raise the excitement.

Yes, I believe they are considered as the 'themeings' as well.

[Jake]

I've been looking at some of Billy's pictures of the repaint, and I have noticed something peculiar. In a certain picture you can see red track, pink track, then red track again all very close to each other. Is it possible that we will see an alternating paint scheme? I have seen this done in Roller Coaster Tycoon, and am wondering if that is how they'll do that with X.

Thoughts?

[Sam]

^ That would be better than just solid red. If this is so, I'm hoping for black or yellow for the other color. :)

[Youhow2]

You must not have seen it in person in the last several years. ;)

And Mike, you haven't been on Eejanaika to know for sure, have you?...:p


Despite being next to Viper, the tracks are different shades of red and the supports will help contrast so it doesn't look weird.



lol...Dude It was a joke... I just dont like the idea of a rollercoaster being pink... It's be like having a barbie pink sportscar... It's like a pink bulldozer...

[rollercoasterfreek]

lol...Dude It was a joke... I just dont like the idea of a rollercoaster being pink... It's be like having a barbie pink sportscar... It's like a pink bulldozer...

I try not to joke too much when on a forum since not everyone will get it. (nor do I try to be sarcastic since not everyone can hear my voice tone.)

Anyways, the change should be for good. I don't see how it can be any worse.

[italianpnoy112]

Wow "The 5th Dimension". That's like, tapping into the unknown. Heck, that's breaking the cycle of the Space Time Continuum!

Jesus who does MM think they are fooling? I think they went a little too far with categorizing it that. I personally think the current colors are much better. The pink and yellow made me gag whenever I saw it and it was an eyesore.(I really never understood how a name such as X could tie in with pink and yellow?) Anyway I really can't wait to see this "improovement" happen. All I know though is that I'll be there as soon as it opens to experience it.

[Mike T]

I personally think this is just a new marketing ploy from the park. I don't find it a "harm" to the industry in anyway, and I don't think dubbing the ride "The 5th dimension" is going to change the fact that it's S&S/Arrow's 4th Dimension model.

And on the topic of alternating colors, perhaps they just didn't paint that section yet? Pink and Red seems a bit awkward, and there isn't much contrast between the two colors for it to seem noticeable on the ride.

[Jake]

^ I thought the same thing, that they had not gotten to it yet. But it doesn't make sense to me. Why would they to a section then not do the section immediately next to it, but then do a section immediately next to that.

Here's the image I'm referring to.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2976/xpaintgq8.jpg
Thanks to Billy for the picture.

[Dan]

It could be what you think, Jake, but it could also just be how the painters thought it best to paint it. Just like some coasters are built different sections at a time in different areas. I'm not sure if they had more than one team working on the ride, but I'm sure that the farther away you are from other teams, the easier it is to paint.

[thatdancingbear]

When I've been there the past few trips, the power washers weren't all in one group moving along, but doing their own thing on different sections of track. Makes sense that they work until they meet...

[p0tat0]

The painters use a very secret equation to figure out where to paint first. I could die if I gave out the secret.

[thatdancingbear]

In my most recent PTR, I had a picture of X's lift with the paint almost connected. Im pretty convinced that its just the order that its being painted right now...

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4560/img0092ac9.jpg (http://www.rollercoasterpro.com/community/showthread.php?p=7500#post7500)

[Brandon]

X2 set to arrive at Magic Mountain
http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-01/34911586.jpg

The first of three new X2 trains is expected to arrive at Six Flags Magic Mountain (http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/?cat=1043) by the end of next week in advance of an anticipated Memorial Day weekend rebirth.

After the original X debuted in 2002 to repeated downtime issues (http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/?p=942), Magic Mountain faced the difficult choice of building new trains or getting rid of the prototype roller coaster with rotating 360-degree seats. The Valencia amusement park opted for the $1- million fix when the sagging winged seats began to stress the overtaxed coaster, officials said.

An innovative 3-D computer-modeling program helped coaster designers decrease the overall weight from 60,000 to 50,000 pounds per train — a more than 15% reduction. Parts manufactured to military specifications lightened the load while aerodynamic fighter plane paint reduced wind drag. (Colors in the 3-D rendering indicate individual coaster components and not a design scheme.)

When the coaster reopens, a new queue configuration and loading procedure promise to cut wait times in half, allowing X2 to employ the FlashPass line management system — addressing a chief gripe of visitors.

The rechristened X2 track is currently shedding X’s clownish pink and yellow paint job in favor of a more “ominous” red and charcoal gray scheme. At $135 per gallon, the paint job’s price tag is equally onerous: $600,000.
http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/?p=1255

[Jake]

At $135 per gallon, the paint job’s price tag is equally onerous: $600,000.

Yikes! No wonder we don't see new paint jobs on coasters very often, it's an expensive affair!

[Tom]

Memorial Day weekend? I'll believe it when I see it. What surprises me are 3 trains, not just 2. Does that mean they are fixing the glitch so to say! They should have the BEST ride ops on that coaster for this entire summer, not putting a single slacker, or new op there.

[EmperorNorton]

The trains look really cool actully! I hope this makes the ride much more smooth and fun.

[Dan]

Parts manufactured to military specifications lightened the load while aerodynamic fighter plane paint reduced wind drag. (Colors in the 3-D rendering indicate individual coaster components and not a design scheme.)Who knew the paint could make such a difference at such low speeds! Props to S&S for lowering the weight by five tons while maintaining functionality, it's a pity Arrow couldn't do it at the beginning of X's life.

[Jeff]

Looks pretty leet, but they still have got a while to go. I can't wait until it's done! :)

[Michael]

I'm surprised not to see a protective covering over the main mechanical mass. I found that a little shocking :(

Looks good though!

[Dan]

That may be just to show the interior of the trains.

[Brandon]

I'm surprised not to see a protective covering over the main mechanical mass. I found that a little shocking :(
^

(Colors in the 3-D rendering indicate individual coaster components and not a design scheme.)

[Dan]

He's talking about the lack of a cover, not the colors. Though the article doesn't state it, it's probably the same reason.

[Maxamillious]

Let’s remember too that the X2 car featured at IAPPA last year resembled that rendering in not having an outer casing either. Its IAPPA, so it could have been to show off the new military spec parts, but there wasn’t an outer casing off to the side.

I suppose we’ll have to wait until the trains arrive at the park, but I’ll put my money down that the trains will stay shell-less.

[Brandon]

He's talking about the lack of a cover, not the colors. Though the article doesn't state it, it's probably the same reason.
I know. Thats why I quoted what I quoted. I guess I should of said something to clairify...


Since most, if not all the artwork we have seen shows no shell, and as Max has said, the IAAPA car had no shell. I'm starting to think that SFMM is playing it safe when it comes to the weight issue, by not installing a shell. If that is the case, just how much weight would the trains have lost without the shell's? Also, wouldnt the lack of a shell end up being costly for Six Flags? I'm sure that over time, the exposure to a element such as water will have a effect on the parts, military spec or not.

[Dan]

I know. Thats why I quoted what I quoted. I guess I should of said something to clairify...


Since most, if not all the artwork we have seen shows no shell, and as Max has said, the IAAPA car had no shell. I'm starting to think that SFMM is playing it safe when it comes to the weight issue, by not installing a shell. If that is the case, just how much weight would the trains have lost without the shell's? Also, wouldnt the lack of a shell end up being costly for Six Flags? I'm sure that over time, the exposure to a element such as water will have a effect on the parts, military spec or not.My guess is there's a shell...it doesn't really matter if it is made of plastic or anything, as long as the insides are protected. And it probably weights less than 100lbs...made of carbon fiber or something.

[thatdancingbear]

^ Carbon Fiber, you wish! :D

More like some kind of polyurethane...


EDIT: v What he said.

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

Fiberglass.

And I wouldn't expect anything special going onto the S&S trains.

[Dan]

Well, looking at pictures from TPR, it looks like there's no shell. The reason I suspected there would be one is that I thought the inside of the current shell had some bulk to it, but looking at pictures, the new trains don't really have anything to protect inside.

[Cyrus]

I was at the park yesterday and a couple employees we talked to, who actually knew a thing or two, were telling my dad and I about the new attraction. It is supposed to be smoother, they are going to TRY OUT running three trains. They are making the station a whole, so where you get on is where you get off, it wont be seperated for loading and unloading anymore. They think this should take off already a minute and a half of the loading process to the ride. THATS A LOT. haha

[JD71]

http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/?p=1267

2 of the 3 trains have arrived.

[CedarFair Kinda Guy!]

Sweet!! I think the new trains are going to be awesome!! I look forward to seeing them all together!!

[Youhow2]

It'll be weird seeing that blue coasting the red track, but everything is looking sexy nonetheless...

[disneylhand]

^Eejanaika has a blue train.

-disneylhand

[Goliath255]

http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/?p=1274

[R.C.]

Wow. That was not what I expected the tunnels to be like. I really expected them to be corrugated steel walls painted to match the new paint scheme. It will be interesting to see these tunnels on 2-4 of the coasters straight sections.

And the trains probably won't be going 75 mph in these areas of the coaster.

[Dan]

Placed at two to four straightaway locations along the 3,600-foot-long track, the themed tunnels will feature lights, sound and fog.
Cool, multiple tunnels...though one long tunnel might have been better.


Constructed of a breathable canvas tarp designed to withstand sun, rain and wind, the spider web-like canopies with lighted beacon tips are evocative of the iconic Denver International Airport (http://flydenver.com/) terminal.
Figures...canvas instead of a hard material...probably cheaper. Here's a photo of what they look like at the Denver airport:http://www.visitingdc.com/images/denver-airport-address.jpg
visitingdc.com

You can see the light shining brightly through in the photograph. Won't light shine from the outside in as well? I guess we can forget these being dark tunnels.


The obvious question: What can you possibly see at 75 mph?Flashing lights, and you can hear loud noises. Those just add to experience, it's not like there will be a Cirque Soleil show in that tent of a tunnel.

Edit: Maybe they'll use black canvas or something, that'd look sick.

[Exceller]

Looking at that article, the "tunnel" looks unique. I also noticed that in the article it said it will be reopening in Summer 2008.

Here are the pictures:
http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-01/34994427.jpghttp://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-01/34994419.jpg
Source: LA Times & SFMM

[RollermanDan]

Looks like the birds will have a nice piece of canvas to crap on now ;). Looks interesting regardless...

[Michael]

It looks like a bra... for a roller coaster :p

Certainly unique.

[Youhow2]

It looks like a bra... for a roller coaster :p

Certainly unique.

wow... that's officially my new signature...

[p0tat0]

I think they spend most of their money on the trains, that's why they chose canvas lol

[Tom]

After thinking about it for a few days before instantly reacting negatively, I am giving SFMM props for the canvas. I think it is better than steel tunnels, as it will be much easier to maintain, and will give it a more futuristic look so to say. I really hope that X2 does not fail to meet my expectations, as X was my favorite ride. Everything seems to be going in the right direction and I hope they finish this early so my friends who have never been on a coaster, can ride it.

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

I question, though. What kind of lighting effects could you have if one's going to see daylight as soon as they enter the 'tunnel'?

[Dan]

The more I think about it, the more it seems less like a tunnel and more like a canopy, or tent.

[Tom]

I question, though. What kind of lighting effects could you have if one's going to see daylight as soon as they enter the 'tunnel'?

I really think it depends on how they light it though, if they have, say strobe lights, it will completely disorient you, and that will make it unique even more so. I think at night is when the tunnels will be the best. What I actually hope is during the day it is mist/fog and at night they add the lights.

[Youhow2]

They can use a black canvas material you know...

[Matt]

Lol, that canvas is a joke.

[EmperorNorton]

I will just wait to see what it looks like on the ride. I still say that they can do more to theme the ride, but 10 mil is a lot to spend on what they are doing to the ride, so I will give them a break.

[disneylhand]

I wonder if they will keep the yellow color scheme of the structures in the transfer track/train storage building.

-disneylhand

[Maxamillious]

^ That really wouldn’t make a whole-lota’ sense. The conceptual idea in repainting X is that it’s now X2. Leaving portions unpainted would be the equivalent of running old X ads for X2, using both names for the single attraction.

I’m pretty sure they’ll paint it all. Six Flags has that deal with the paint supplier anyway, so there’s not much likelihood in paint being limited.

[xHaZxMaTx]

Question: Is it X2 or X²? :confused:

[Dan]

It's X squared, however you type that.

[thatdancingbear]

Correct, its X2 with 2 as a SuperScript...

-X²-

[xHaZxMaTx]

Alt+0178 ;)

[disneylhand]

I meant the yellow/silver color scheme in the background of this picture from Robb's behind the scenes trip report:
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o259/disneylhand/x2_trains_24_204.jpg

-disneylhand

[Youhow2]

They should keep atleast one of those old trains...

[Sam]

They should keep atleast one of those old trains...

why

[Youhow2]

I dunno, a tribute to the ride and the company that built it maybe?

[xHaZxMaTx]

Have it on display in the queue, or something?

[Youhow2]

Yeah... something like that, It was the first of it's kind no?

[Maxamillious]

If anything, I’m sure that ACE already has first dibs on the trains. ;)

[Youhow2]

If this is true, I am happy...

[coastermatt]

If anything, I’m sure that ACE already has first dibs on the trains. ;) If you mean getting to see the trains, your wrong. Robb got to see the first two cars for ThemeParkReview.com -_-

[Sam]

If you mean getting to see the trains, your wrong. Robb got to see the first two cars for ThemeParkReview.com -_-

That's not what he meant. He meant who gets to acquire the old trains after the new ones are put on the ride.

[Zonga]

Perfect addition to the "Ace Museum." :001_cool:

[coastermatt]

Oh. It would make a good edition Zonga!

[CedarFair Kinda Guy!]

^ That is a great place for such unique trains to go. It isn't possible they will give parts away will they?? Like at an event or something. Thats what they do sometimes. Just a thought.

[Sam]

Maybe the park will auction them off for some spare cash like some parks do with old ride parts.

[vedved82491]

Well SFMM has been pretty generous laterly...Maybe they'll be giving those who attend West coaster bash a piece of the old train...perhaps a seat or a fin, maybe a wheel? :wink2:

[iloverollercoasters]

Are they demolishing Freefall?

I can't wait to ride X2! I have a feeling that it is going to be scarier than X itself!

[JD71]

1) Yes, Freefall has been removed. http://www.rollercoasterpro.com/community/showthread.php?p=10520#post10520

2) Rule 3 buddy. http://www.rollercoasterpro.com/community/showthread.php?t=2

[Matt]

I can't wait to ride X2! I have a feeling that it is going to be scarier than X itself!
Yeah, because X with a color change and tarps over some parts of the ride scare me too!

[JonJon86]

I was at the park yesterday and a couple employees we talked to, who actually knew a thing or two, were telling my dad and I about the new attraction. It is supposed to be smoother, they are going to TRY OUT running three trains. They are making the station a whole, so where you get on is where you get off, it wont be seperated for loading and unloading anymore. They think this should take off already a minute and a half of the loading process to the ride. THATS A LOT. haha

3 train op? If the blocks stay the same that might be weird. If they're getting rid of the unload/load blocks, then maybe it can be possible.

[Arez]

^ The entire load/unload system will be reconfigured for X2. You will load and unload at the same block.

-Alex

[Cody]

The load and unload system is going to be the as Eejanaika.

[JonJon86]

So are they dropping down to 4 blocks...and have just one really long one? Or maybe they'll keep it the way it is...

So will people get in and out at the unload block or the load block? will the line change?

They are gonna have to retrain that entire crew now.

[shawn_b_c]

I actually have a sneaky feeling that WCB participants are going to get a preview ride on X2.

This is re-inforced by the fact that X2 was recently testing, and the fact that we know from Robb's comments that there will be at least one more coaster during morning ERT.....

[rollercoasterfreak91]

If you guys do, I'll be jealous, but I doubt it'll happen.

[Jake]

^^ I've been thinking the same thing.. if that's true, I can't wait to hear if the ride has improved at all.

[The Storm Runner]

Isn't X2 set to open Memorial Day weekend though? Along with Thomas Town?

[thatdancingbear]

^Im not sure if Thomas Town can be completed by then, but that is the scheduled weekend for X2 to reopen.

I don't see why there wont be X2 night ert at WCB.

[Jake]

^^ There isn't a definite date set up, it was just assumed that it would open Memorial Day Weekend.

[thatdancingbear]

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5069/x2ip2.jpg

New X2 logo is up - http://www.sixflags.com/magicMountain/rides/X2.aspx

[rollercoasterfreak91]

I like it, though I think they'll probably use the other one on signage.

[Youhow2]

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5069/x2ip2.jpg

New X2 logo is up - http://www.sixflags.com/magicMountain/rides/X2.aspx


That's sweet... now if only they could make a 3D sign with that...

[thatdancingbear]

I hope they do. That could look AWESOME where the bubbly-blue one is now.

[MaverickManJZ]

^Im not sure if Thomas Town can be completed by then, but that is the scheduled weekend for X2 to reopen.

I don't see why there wont be X2 night ert at WCB.

Robb said that's not the surprise. And that it's not going to happen.

[Youhow2]

If the coaster isnt ready for riding it's not happening...

[The Storm Runner]

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5069/x2ip2.jpg

New X2 logo is up - http://www.sixflags.com/magicMountain/rides/X2.aspx

It kinda looks like the sign for X Coaster, like, the bolts and "mechanical" feel: http://www.rcdb.com/ig3312.htm?picture=11
without the "Coaster" and with the 2 though.

If they made a large version of that, and you were to walk underneath of the X to get in line, that'd be pretty cool. :smile:

[rollercoasterfreak91]

That would be like 40 feet tall...I don't think it'll happen. But it would be awesome. Imagine the shots you could get with that in the foreground...*drools*

[Youhow2]

they could make it smaller...

[CedarFair Kinda Guy!]

The logo looks extremely awesome!! It will be cool to see what they do for the real sign!! :w00t:

[Batman: The Member]

I can't wait to ride on that! But are they changeing the color? It doesn't look very cool.

[Maxamillious]

It seems X2 has been testing this week. :)

Link (http://www.sixflags.com/magicMountain/rides/X2transformation.aspx)

[R.C.]

^The link doesn't work. Just thought I'd let you know.

[Maxamillious]

^ Thanks. It should be working now. :)

[Tom]

That just brought a tear to my eye. That is b-e-a-utiful! When are they going to add the tunnels, is anyone sure?

[Dietcokevan]

This is driving me CRAZY!!! What are the supports that I circled for? I have been on X and I don't remember them.

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1581/xtest1gd1.jpg

[Matt]

Edit: Never mind, I'm wrong. :P

[disneylhand]

^^Holding the track up.
The wide cars on X call for different-looking supports.

-disneylhand

[WickedPhantom]

Wow...I'm so out of the loop. I didn't even know Eejanaika existed. Plus, my old account just got flat out deleted.

Well, I'm glad that Magic Mountain is trying to salvage X, cuz it was an amazing ride for about 10 minutes until it started falling apart.

Does anyone know if they're going to fix the jerkiness of the rotations, or add cushions to the leg rests?

[Dan]

Wow...I'm so out of the loop. I didn't even know Eejanaika existed. Plus, my old account just got flat out deleted.

Well, I'm glad that Magic Mountain is trying to salvage X, cuz it was an amazing ride for about 10 minutes until it started falling apart.

Does anyone know if they're going to fix the jerkiness of the rotations, or add cushions to the leg rests?The forum was restarted.

The rotations will be the same, because they are controlled by the track and not the train.

[WickedPhantom]

The forum was restarted.

The rotations will be the same, because they are controlled by the track and not the train.

#1. Oh...I did not know that.

#2. FRICK! The rotations are the biggest problem on the whole darned thing. It feels like someone is yanking on the back of your car until they can muster the strength and momentum to get you to actually flip over.

[Jake]

The rotations will theoretically be the same, however with the new trains the transitions may be a whole lot smoother.

[RollermanDan]

Not from what we saw yesterday...*cough* It's still in the testing phase but the rotations of the new train were so jerky, it could be seen from the ground...

[Youhow2]

Well that sucks...lol 10 million down the drain ?

[sirloin]

The X2 concept was developed mainly for reliability. Not once do I recall smoothness being one of the desired outcomes. X2's biggest advantage is the new lightweight trains that allow for greatly reduced downtime. All the other new effects are just that: effects. It gives SFMM a little more to market the revised X with.