Hersheypark's Fahrenheit

[The Storm Runner]

Welcome to the thread all over the construction and ride reviews of Hersheypark's 11th roller coaster, Fahrenheit, a 121 ft Intamin with a 97 degree drop, Norwegian Loop, Cobra Roll, and much much more!

http://www.hersheypa.com/attractions/hersheypark/fahrenheit/fahrenheit_c800x600.jpg

http://www.hersheypa.com/attractions/hersheypark/fahrenheit/index.php

So welcome aboard! My first update of the dismantling of the 1988 water slides, Western Chute-Out (Where Fahrenheit will be located), can be found here: http://www.rollercoasterpro.com/updates/fahrenheit09.29.07/

:)

[jolash]

Simply enough, I'm just not impressed by it.

And the name is soo lame. Most people can't even spell Fahrenheit.

[chrisps]

I think that this coaster will be fun when it opens next year at hersheypark I hope to get on this coaster next year at hersheypark. I will check this topic to keep up to date on the new coaster for next year at hersheypark. I also think that this coaster will be fun to ride it goes upside down 6 times so it will be a fun ride for me to get on next year at hersheypark. I also like the layout of this new coaster and I am not disaponted by this coaster it will be fun to ride. I also hope that someone on this form post constion pictures of this coaster for next year at hersheypark.

[Airtime&Gravity]

This looks like a really cool coaster, and the inverted loop(or whatever it will be called) looks like a fun element. Hopefully more of these Intamin coasters with drops steeper than 90* open up as they seem to be cool rides.

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

I'm still a bit weary of these over-90-degree drops. Last time I checked, no one was bragging about Eurofighter drops...

To me, it seems like the airtime wouldn't be as defined as a 90 degree, or near 90, drop because you've got the y-axis forces [restraint] pushing you instead of just weightless freefall. Kind of like how TTD's drop isn't as good as it should be because of the lateral forces from the x-axis of the twist.

[The Storm Runner]

^Well, Hersheypark already has a straight down 90 degree drop no twists with Storm Runner. Maverick's drop turned out ok, right? Even if it doesn't start at 20 mph. I see what you're saying though. Other factors affect the freefall effect (like TTD's twist or being over vertical), but I think it'll offer variety. :)

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

^I thought Storm Runners drop killed both Xcel's and TTD's drop because the lack of twisting. I think it all comes to down to a bunch of numbers that are designed to decieve the GP.

Mavericks drop, I'd like to ride it for myself to see what it's like. I can see how you'd be quickly launched out of your seat, but I think the duration of freefall is significantly shorter before you're being pushed back, then up.

[chrisps]

I think that the drop on hersheypark's new coaster will be fun to ride. I also like how there are coasters get made with more than a 90 deg drop. I have never been on maverick but it also looks like fun so I think that hersheypark's new coaster will be fun to ride. I like the inversions on this coaster it should make it more fun to ride. I also like how more coasters with a drop steeper than 90 dreegs is been made I also like the storm runner and that has a 90 dreeg drop on it and I also like the inversions on the storm runner also hersheypark keeps getting better coasters ever 4 years so it will be interesting to see what hersheypark comes up with for the coaster after this new coaster in 4 years.

[IntaminFan007]

I just do not want this to happen.

Reasons why:
1. Colors do not fit well with Storm Runner there too
2. They already have an Intamin
3. It just seems like a Gerstlauer fused with a Maverick--Gerstick or Mavuer?

[The Storm Runner]

^Uhhh, why don't you want this to happen?

[GeorgeBC]

I'm still a bit weary of these over-90-degree drops. Last time I checked, no one was bragging about Eurofighter drops...

They're alright, get a good pop of airtime at the top but after that there nothing to shout home about.

As for "Fahrenheit", it certainly took me back a bit design wise, it looks like it will be a fun little (Well, it's not really little, but you know what I mean) coaster. Although I really hope that the cobra roll does not suffer from the usual pain most other Intamin cobra rolls entail.

One thing I'm not too sure on is the name, but it'll most likely grow on me with time like most names.

[jolash]

2. They already have an Intamin

And Cedar Point has five.

[crZythrill3r]

Ok, wait a minute. If the trains "3-Car Cycle" doesn't launch up the hill, then won't the capacity be really really low? Considering it is 121ft, I know most Euro-Fighters are less than 100ft. [Besides Speed: No Limit] and it does take them awhile to get up the hill. But, looking at Fahrenheit it would be a problem. I consider this as a problem, if they don't raise the train limits. Or am I wrong?

[The Storm Runner]

^Yeah, the projected rph is 850 people, 15 more than Wild Mouse...

[Youhow2]

Cool looking, and sounding...But Capacity straight-out sucks. It can only run 3 trains at the same time? If this is the case, they need to find a way to put some more on.

[The Storm Runner]

^It's not that they can't find a way to run more than 3 trains at one time. The ride has a total of 3 trains period. :(

[bringinsaxyback]

I wasn't sure where to post this, but Howler is being put where the Pioneer Frontier Virtual Theater is(/was)

[Arez]

I'm not too familiar with Hersheypark, but does it usually get crowded enough to the point where 850rph would be a problem?

-Alex

[The Storm Runner]

For a big new ride like this - yes, especially on Saturdays. A lot of the time on Saturdays during the summer Great Bear can get a line of 45 minutes or more, and Storm Runner an hour (sometimes not even on the weekend). And both of those get well over 1,000 rph.

But for the most part, it shouldn't really be that big of problem. That is, after it's been open for a couple weeks. Right at its opening it'll probably be an hour at least long (but you SFMM-ers think that's nothing). So go there first! ;)

[3xinvert]

For a big new ride like this - yes, especially on Saturdays. A lot of the time on Saturdays during the summer Great Bear can get a line of 45 minutes or more, and Storm Runner an hour (sometimes not even on the weekend). And both of those get well over 1,000 rph.

But for the most part, it shouldn't really be that big of problem. That is, after it's been open for a couple weeks. Right at its opening it'll probably be an hour at least long (but you SFMM-ers think that's nothing). So go there first! ;)

About Great Bear-line was 90 minutes when I went on Saturday in May, 60 when I went in July.

And, will do. I usually go when there's not that many crowds, but with the Boardwalk open for a year now...;)

BTW, yes! I was SO looking for this thread yesterday!

[Mystery?]

I think this ride will be good, but it is not the Storm Runner type of material I expected. It's good for what it's worth, but it seems like Speed: The Ride with a cobra roll. It doesn't look like anything SUPER amazing, but amazing none the less.

[G-Force!]

Overall, I think this ride is very unique and will be a great addition to Hersheypark.

[Dan]

I think the one of the concepts of this ride is something B&M should play around with. Many new Intamins coming out use brand new layout ideas, whereas most B&M's are very similar to each other (spare a few). Maybe they could even introduce a new element or new order of elements to a coaster like Goliath, or Behemoth.

This ride does look pretty spectacular, and although I have ridden neither this (obviously) nor Maverick, I have to say I'm guessing I will prefer Maverick once I ride both. I think rides closer to the ground provide a better experience for the general public than regular loopers and such, because the closer to the ground you are, the better sense of speed you have. When you are up in an airplane at over 500mph, you don't feel like you're going to fast. But, when you land, you are going less than 200, but you feel like you're going extremely fast.

Although the drop on this ride looks phenomenal, I want to bring back an idea Mike posted, that the shape of the first drop will really effect how it compares to Mavericks, notwithstanding its higher degree drop. Maverick's first drop flicks right through it, whereas this one probably moves a little more slowly, obviously effecting airtime greatly. So, we'll just have to see what happens once those who have ridden Maverick get to ride this...Alex? Jake?

[Xcelerator]

Having been on Mavy, I'd think that drop will make the coaster. BUT, I do not like how Intamin is doing a B&M thing by going inversion after inversion after inversion. That is completeley out of their normal style. Nevertheless, it should be a great ride. And Gerstlaur lifts are nowhere near as fast as Intamin lifts, so I'd assume the lift on this will be pretty fast, especially considering these being shorter, thus lighter, trains.

The pretzel should be tons of fun, as Intamin makes their pretzels strangely IMO. I love how they twist at the top...I don't know why...

[TheLightningRacer]

I think this will be an excellent addition to Hersheypark this year. Except for Hershey getting more people in its park this year i think this will be a great coaster to add to the list of 10.

[Comet]

The only thing I'm really looking forward to about this ride is the Norweigan Loop and first drop. Although the corkscrews could end up being a pleasant surprise. As for the Cobra Roll, I probably would've rather liked to see an overbanked hammerhead, but it should be fine.

This is something that Hershey undoubtfully needed though. They needed this extra big ride to make it a multi day park, and the Boardwalk has helped that substantially too.

[The Storm Runner]

I actually prefer parks that you can do in one day. I like being able to do everything with time for re-rides all in one day. Also, it's cheaper if you're coming to Hershey from elsewhere. I'm actually looking forward to the whole thing. The drop, Norweigan Loop (how could a hammerhead replace it? Hammerheads are basically a 180 degree turn, and a hammer head sends you in the same direction you were going before entering it), cobra roll, corkscrews (hopefully it'll have great floater air like the ones on Maverick :)), and everything else, especially that lake in the simulation. ;)


^^Welcome to the forums, Josh!


EDIT: Oops...:o

[Comet]

Norweigan Loop (how could a hammerhead replace it? Hammerheads are basically a 180 degree turn, and a hammer head sends you in the same direction you were going before entering it)

I think you misread my post...


Also, it's cheaper if you're coming to Hershey from elsewhere.

But if you're coming from a decently far distance like Long Island (where I would be coming from) you want to make it worth the long car ride by staying more for then one day.

[vekoma9]

Hershey Park, seems like it is trying to be the cream of the crop at the moment. It is really trying to get everyone to come over to Penn. It really seems like a great place to go to. I do agree with Intamin Mike though. The coaster Farhenheit, seems odd to me. It's not very appealing to me either. Also take note, I did enjoy Maverick however it isn't my favorite. This coaster seems to be a two trick pony with just the 97 degree drop and the Norweigan Pretzel. The inversion duel looks like the only cool inversion element, and seems like it has to compare with Tatsu pretzel, concerning G forces.

Does anyone have construction pics or sightings of track?

[Jake]

I actually prefer parks that you can do in one day. I like being able to do everything with time for re-rides all in one day. Also, it's cheaper if you're coming to Hershey from elsewhere.

Hershey wants you to spend more money there. Think about it. Staying an extra day means another days worth of food, another night in a hotel room (assuming you stay with Hershey), and possibly more souveneirs. That's one of the reasons places like Disneyland thrive! They have people not only coming, but staying with them. Eating, sleeping, breathing Hershey for a couple of days = a good chunk of change for Hershey.

[Michael]

I do agree with Intamin Mike though. The coaster Farhenheit, seems odd to me. It's not very appealing to me either...

When did I say that? ;) j/k

Oh the joys of the old forums being gone... :rolleyes:

[The Storm Runner]

^^ :) Yup. Which is why I say I like parks that you can do in one day. It's cheaper for the guest. :)

[Jake]

Who cares what's cheaper for the guest? The value is the same, your just spending more to get it. It's rarely about cost when it comes to vacations. I'd say it's the value of the vacation that matters.

Take Walt Disney World for example. It's VERY expensive, yet they make buttloads of money because it's a good value.

[Xcelerator]

Take Walt Disney World for example. It's VERY expensive, yet they make buttloads of money because it's a good value.


WHAT!!?? :eek: Good Value? The only reason they can charge that much is because of their name. Plain and simple. :p

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

^You didn't know $9 for a McDonalds meal at DAK and $12 for chicken nugget meal at a resort cafe is a bargain? :rolleyes:


I actually prefer parks that you can do in one day. I like being able to do everything with time for re-rides all in one day.
I kind of look at Hershey and a lot of the other parks with a handful of attractions the same way. I don't think they're trying to necessarily cater into a multi-day resort, they're just trying to offer a broader range of attractions. Take WDWR's park-hopper option, the majority of guests that purchase a park-hopper still choose the one-day option. I don't think guests intend on trying to do everything in one day, just more so they'd like to spread out their options and pick and choose at leisure. Same thing with Silver Dollar City. We're thinking how many rerides we'll get on WildFire, but if you ask any other guest, they may have ridden it once because their focus is on doing the shows and other attractions at SDC. Jumping back, I don't even think you can do ALL the attractions at the parks within a couple days at WDWR. The market isn't always within the park for transforming it into a getaway, it's elsewhere...hence why WDWR has the boardwalk, FEC's, and ton's of other non-park stuff to do.

I don't mind that parks like Hershey keep expanding their attractions. The bottom line is the average guest still isn't going to spend more than a day there. If there's a candle outlet for the lady to go shopping while I'm getting some airtime, that's more reason to come. I don't think Fahrenheit is transforming the park into a multi-day destination...and I don't think that was their intention either. Fahrenheit is just a money pool designed to bring old guests back and new ones in. If Hershey wanted to create a resort empire, they would've been expanding the Lodge & Hotel...not erecting new track.

[Jake]

WHAT!!?? :eek: Good Value? The only reason they can charge that much is because of their name. Plain and simple. :p

See if you weren't completely against Disney I might agree with you ;).

^ And for an amusement park, your damn right it is. On average I spend nearly fifteen dollars at Knott's for lunch. More if it's at Johnny Rockets, so while it may be more expensive than what it should be it's cheap compared to other amusement park prices.

I wasn't talking about inside the park prices either. I was reffering to the value of their five day passes and the like. The longer you stay the better value your vacation is. Don't believe me? Check out their website once in a while :rolleyes:.

[Tom]

^Me and a few friends were considering going to Orlando over spring break, but there just coming back to Cali with me. Disney does have some good values if you stay for a week, one day though, no chance.

[Jake]

Exactly. If your only going for one day your seriously cheating yourself out of a lot of money.

Wow we're offtopic, lol.

[Xcelerator]

<Pulls on reigns to steer the topic back, the thread neighs>

Is there anyone here who's been on Speed Monster? How is it's pretzel? I'd assume Fahrenheit's will be basically the same.

[Mike T]

Let Me see if I can get in contact with Ville (aka ncf). I haven't spoken to him in a while, but I'm sure he'll gladly post his thoughts if I ask. BTW, he's the guy that took those awesome shots of Speed Monster that we have in the gallery...

[p0tat0]

Who cares what's cheaper for the guest? The value is the same, your just spending more to get it. It's rarely about cost when it comes to vacations. I'd say it's the value of the vacation that matters.

Take Walt Disney World for example. It's VERY expensive, yet they make buttloads of money because it's a good value.WHOA man! The cost ALWAYS matters. Doesn't matter what it is. Money has to come from somewhere!

[jolash]

I think he was trying to say, while being wayy off, is that guests are more willing to pay bigger bucks at Disney, because it's worth it. You're not going to pay the outrageous prices you pay there at MIA. You're paying more, but you get more at Disney (and more than physical, concrete things).

[3xinvert]

I think he was trying to say, while being wayy off, is that guests are more willing to pay bigger bucks at Disney, because it's worth it. You're not going to pay the outrageous prices you pay there at MIA. You're paying more, but you get more at Disney (and more than physical, concrete things).

Off topic, but...WOOHOO!!! 3x is BACK, baby!
*gets back on topic*

If what you're trying to say is that the stuff Disney sells lasts longer, I'd have to agree. I went during the Millenium celebration in '01, right after 9/11 (what fun) and I bought one of those spinney-lazer type things...crapped out a year ago. My brother bought himself a Disney trivia player and it crapped out a couple years ago.

I do have to agree though. Disney is a household name-publicity means that you can charge more...doesn't mean that I think that it's fair...

[Jake]

Have there been any track sightings at this point?

[The Storm Runner]

I'm not sure. I was in Hershey for a while today with relatives, but I only got to see the Chocolate Avenue side of the park. :( (And by doing so I learned you can hear Great Bear several blocks away from Chocolate Ave!)

[TheLightningRacer]

I was at Hershey yesterday to check out the Fahrenheit spot.

And wow do i have to say many people like Hersheypark in the dark it was like a summer day crowd level. Anyway the western chutes are almost gone just a lonely wood structure remaining. I was very surprised they did not tear down all of it yet considering of when they made the announcement. I have a few pictures i just have to get them uploaded. My second reason why i went was to find track pieces. But sadly after riding the lightning racer and the wildcat no track pieces were found.

I can't wait for Fahrenheit.

[Voyage100]

Did you see anything like footers around Fahrenheit spot, as you went to Hershey Park? Sounds like it will be an awesome Intamin twister.

[3xinvert]

I was at Hershey yesterday to check out the Fahrenheit spot.

And wow do i have to say many people like Hersheypark in the dark it was like a summer day crowd level. Anyway the western chutes are almost gone just a lonely wood structure remaining. I was very surprised they did not tear down all of it yet considering of when they made the announcement. I have a few pictures i just have to get them uploaded. My second reason why i went was to find track pieces. But sadly after riding the lightning racer and the wildcat no track pieces were found.

I can't wait for Fahrenheit.

Going by past experiences (ie-The Boardwalk), they stuck the pieces in a little gravel spot right across from the Red Robin on Park Ave and 39. It's not visible from LR, however, maybe that's why you couldn't see it. They also had a few pieces back behind the catering spots, too, which isn't visible from ANYWHERE ('cept maybe the Stadium)...then again, they may not have delivered anything yet...:D


Did you see anything like footers around Fahrenheit spot, as you went to Hershey Park? Sounds like it will be an awesome Intamin twister.

Footers won't usually go in until the OFF off-season (ie-November-early January). HP has Christmas Candylane, but they rope it off right after the little railroad thing, so I think that would be ample time for construction to begin. I can't remember when they put footers in on SR (I think it was November...right before/after Turkey Day, can someone check that?)

[Michael]

^ or they're just sneaky like that ;)

I'm betting they have the track already, just being very careful to hide it. :cool:

[The Storm Runner]

^^If you're thinking about the same spot I am, right behind the Turkey Hill there, then yes, you can see it from LR. Even if it's behind Music Express, it's visible. :) Also, that was for the Boardwalk - water slide pieces. For large SR track, it was along Park Avenue parallel to Lightning Racer. http://www.rcdb.com/ig2498.htm?picture=2

:)

[Arez]

^ or they're just sneaky like that ;)

I'm betting they have the track already, just being very careful to hide it. :cool:

Why would they try to hide the track when the coaster has already been revealed? Doesn't make sense to me..I'm sure they are just waiting for the first shipment to arrive.

-Alex

[3xinvert]

^^If you're thinking about the same spot I am, right behind the Turkey Hill there, then yes, you can see it from LR. Even if it's behind Music Express, it's visible. :) Also, that was for the Boardwalk - water slide pieces. For large SR track, it was along Park Avenue parallel to Lightning Racer. http://www.rcdb.com/ig2498.htm?picture=2

:)

It's not behind the Turkey Hill...well, it IS, but it's not RIGHT behind it. It's about 100-200 feet down Park Ave. Like I said, it was visible clearly from the Red Robin.

[The Storm Runner]

All I'm saying is there were Boardwalk pieces behind Turkey Hill, behind Music Express, and along LR's first drop...

Anyway, back to Fahrenheit. :)

[3xinvert]

Yep.

Anybody got some new stuffs to share with us yet? It's almost been a month and nothing new's happened...feels too long to go without an update...

[The Storm Runner]

Here are some pics from a little over 2 hours ago:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2416/img2133ub4.jpg

Sorry, but my mom was going like 50-60 on Hersheypark Drive, lol. Anyway, this skyline view disturbs me...

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8659/img2132ck5.jpg

As does this one. :( What's missing...? ;)

I haven't seen any track yet. I had my camera out and ready going down Park Ave, but at the same time I felt stupid because all the track would be in the employee parking lot instead. The only reason SR's track was there is because SR is right there, likewise for the Boardwalk. I suppose Fahrenheit will be built in mystery...

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8951/img2131kx2.jpg

I wish I had taken this shot earlier going down Park Ave. The two trains were right at the crest, and the perfect shot was there. But I missed, lol. It's still a great way to confuse people thinking this is the Wildcat! :D


BTW, for all you that care, there's a new stop light on Hersheypark Drive just west of the park. :)

[Michael]

^ Whoa, your right, the skyline is noticably different. That caught my attention, lol.

Hopefully we'l see that skyline change again soon ;)

and great pics, thanks for the update Nick :D

[Comet]

Thanks for the update.
And yeah, I agree, the skyline does look very different...surprisingly. Didn't think it would make that much of a difference.

[Jake]

I have it from a reliable source that we will not see any track until December.

Great update Nick, keep em coming.

[jolash]

Are they selling the 97* drop as the steepest in the world? There are 5 Euro-Fighters with 97* drops.

[Jake]

Nah, they're selling it as the steepest in the states though.

[3xinvert]

Here are some pics from a little over 2 hours ago:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2416/img2133ub4.jpg

Sorry, but my mom was going like 50-60 on Hersheypark Drive, lol. Anyway, this skyline view disturbs me...

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8659/img2132ck5.jpg

As does this one. :( What's missing...? ;)

I haven't seen any track yet. I had my camera out and ready going down Park Ave, but at the same time I felt stupid because all the track would be in the employee parking lot instead. The only reason SR's track was there is because SR is right there, likewise for the Boardwalk. I suppose Fahrenheit will be built in mystery...

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8951/img2131kx2.jpg

I wish I had taken this shot earlier going down Park Ave. The two trains were right at the crest, and the perfect shot was there. But I missed, lol. It's still a great way to confuse people thinking this is the Wildcat! :D


BTW, for all you that care, there's a new stop light on Hersheypark Drive just west of the park. :)

:eek::confused: Where's...where's...where's...*passes out on floor*


I have it from a reliable source that we will not see any track until December.

Great update Nick, keep em coming.

Looking forward to it. Nice job, Nick!




Nah, they're selling it as the steepest in the states though.

I heard N. America, but whatever...definitely not the whole world, though!

[Arez]

As for Fahrenheit:

A unique feature about the attraction is that due to its vertical lift feature, the ride will not include anti-rollback devices. As compensation, the ride will be driven by a double lift chain, and in the instance that one fails, the other will casually bring the train to the top. Although this sounds a bit risky, the design standard is completely safe, because the trains being carried up the lift are not only smaller and lighter, but are being carried by an overly compensated driver that is meant to carry loads that are many times the size and weight of a single Fahrenheit car.

I see a problem here. What if there is a park wide power outage? Then both of the chains wouldn't work, and with no anti-rollbacks, that's a problem. ;)

I remember reading somewhere that Fahrenheit will feature a back up hydraulic lift pump, just in case any type of lift failure takes place. Did Mr. Kernacs happen to mention anything pertaining to this? The double chain just doesn't seem very thought out..

-Alex

[Dan]

I'm sure they have a generator of some sort. Although, it seems like a weird decision.

Why would anti rollback devices be bad? If they are trying to avoid having the car stuck straight up, then they could have added a second chain in addition to the device...

[jolash]

I see a problem here. What if there is a park wide power outage? Then both of the chains wouldn't work, and with

no anti-rollbacks, that's a problem.

No, the car has a latch attaching it to the chain. If the power went out, the chain would stop, but the cars attached to the chain. The anti-rollbacks act as a safety in case that latch breaks. So really, on this coaster, the second chain is acting as an anti-rollback.

As well, if the power does go out, the amount of work and power needed from the motor is way beyond what should be placed on it, due to the fact that you are fighting gravity in the complete opposite direction.

Also note, that if a chain were to break, and the anti-rollbacks come into action, you now have to evacuate the train. This would be an incredible feat with the position that the train will be in. By adding the second chain instead, you're allowing the train to complete the lift before closing the ride and replacing the chain.

[Dan]

Fine...even two chains and the traditional anti rollback system! Both chains could potentially break. The traditional system can't really break, since it has very few moving parts (well, only one really). I guess they could advertise this ride as the first chain driven coaster with no clicking noise up the lift...

[jolash]

I thought Tatsu and several other B&Ms featured a silent lift?


Also, what are the chances of two heavy duty steel chains breaking on one train?

[Dan]

I thought Tatsu and several other B&Ms featured a silent lift?
I believe you're right, my mistake.


Also, what are the chances of two heavy duty steel chains breaking on one train?
Excuse the term, but **** happens. Nobody thought a cable meant to hold much more than a car on a drop ride would snap, but it did.

[Arez]

No, the car has a latch attaching it to the chain. If the power went out, the chain would stop, but the cars attached to the chain. The anti-rollbacks act as a safety in case that latch breaks. So really, on this coaster, the second chain is acting as an anti-rollback.

Actually, if the power was indeed cut, the motor would have no power. So if there was a train on the lift hill, I believe the weight of the train would actually drive the chain backwards through the motor. Thus, resulting in the train rolling backwards down the lift hill.



Also note, that if a chain were to break, and the anti-rollbacks come into action, you now have to evacuate the train. This would be an incredible feat with the position that the train will be in. By adding the second chain instead, you're allowing the train to complete the lift before closing the ride and replacing the chain.

Gerstlauer developed a successful system to evacuate riders from a vertical position. ;)


I thought Tatsu and several other B&Ms featured a silent lift?


Tatsu's lift is *near* silent, you can still hear the anti-rollbacks.

-Alex

[Voyage100]

It's good to have 90 degree lift hill, but I am kind of so worried about its rollbacks, as the ride gets stuck in the vertical lift.

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

I doubt the train would roll back if it lost power. Look at Incredible Hulk, it has no anti-rollbacks on the launch. It's just kicker wheels that keep it from rolling back if it were to stop on the launch. ROTM has no anti-rollbacks either, it uses a capacitor (not quite, but electric storage) to build-up enough electricity to store it for the LIM's in order to gurantee it can clear the launch.

[Dan]

Actually, if the power was indeed cut, the motor would have no power. So if there was a train on the lift hill, I believe the weight of the train would actually drive the chain backwards through the motor. Thus, resulting in the train rolling backwards down the lift hill.
I suppose the motor itself could be a one-way system, that would solve the problem.

[Arez]

I doubt the train would roll back if it lost power. Look at Incredible Hulk, it has no anti-rollbacks on the launch. It's just kicker wheels that keep it from rolling back if it were to stop on the launch. ROTM has no anti-rollbacks either, it uses a capacitor (not quite, but electric storage) to build-up enough electricity to store it for the LIM's in order to gurantee it can clear the launch.

But do any of those ride contain a chain lift?..Nope. The reason launched coasters don't have anti-rollbacks is because if a train were to roll back at say, 15-25 mph, it would damage the undercarriage of the train.

This is why most launched coasters have some sort of emergency brakes on the launch track. Look at the Intamin rockets, they have magnetic break fins that pop up behind the train as it launches. Premier Rides also uses a set of air brakes that run along side of the LIMs, in case of a rollback.

What we're talking about is Fahrenheits vertical lift, it has no form of anti-rollbacks on the lift. I'm just confused with what will happen if both chains fail, in some electrical outage, or any other type of failure.

^True, I was thinking about something like that. Maybe some sort of anti-rollback on the chain / motor itself?

-Alex

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

^I understand that, but what I'm comparing is that Hulks launch doesn't have any direct ability to stop the train from rolling back if it were to stop on the launch-except that the motors can't turn over under the trains weight.

As for the chains rolling back on Fahrenheit, I'm almost positive there will be a one-way mechanism in one of the chain pulleys...a' la some sort of freewheel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freewheel). The sprocket can spin in one direction, but it locks if it tries to spin backwards. So in essence, the chain lift(s) have the anti-rollbacks built in.

[jolash]

Gerstlauer developed a successful system to evacuate riders from a vertical position. ;)

Please, explain.

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

The Gerstlauers use an evac elevator that travels up and down on the side of the vertical lift. Nothing really new, but as good as possible for evacs.

[Nate]

The motor could easily be built to have enough torque to not turn when there is a dead load stopped on it. This would also make it easy for the lift to start moving the train in the even of a stop on the lift.

[The Storm Runner]

New pictures from Candylane were added at Screamscape: http://www.screamscape.com/html/hersheypark.htm

(Not surprisingly) Jake was right. No track yet (so we can see...). And, based on some of the shots, it looks like Milk Can has been removed. Frog Bog still remains, however. Milk Can sat almost adjacent to the bathrooms seen there, but no sign of it remains. :(

[Jake]

The track is scheduled to arrive sometime late this month, if I am not mistaken. I'll let you know if I hear anything else.

[Michael]

The construction seems a bit behind, but we'll see. I'm especially excited for the track to show up! :D it's like christmas morning... ah...

[3xinvert]

(Not surprisingly) Jake was right. No track yet (so we can see...). And, based on some of the shots, it looks like Milk Can has been removed. Frog Bog still remains, however. Milk Can sat almost adjacent to the bathrooms seen there, but no sign of it remains. :(

They were taking a lot of the stuff out, as much as I could remember. Anything even remotely close to WCO (or what was it this season) had spraypaint around it. And that little stage over there, where the 'Milkmen' put on shows (was the Milk Can the name of it? I never figured out what it was called...) was completely surrounded in it.

[The Storm Runner]

Sorry, but where the Milkmen performed is a long ways away from WCO lol (It's on the other side of the Claw and the Playdome). Milk Can was the game right by the exit of WCO.

I'll be going to Candylane on Thursday, so I'll be sure to get some pics! (Hopefully...)

:)

BTW, Candylane and Sweet Lights were closed on Sunday because of the power outages all across our area. :( But they reopened Monday. :)

[3xinvert]

Sorry, but where the Milkmen performed is a long ways away from WCO lol (It's on the other side of the Claw and the Playdome). Milk Can was the game right by the exit of WCO.

I'll be going to Candylane on Thursday, so I'll be sure to get some pics! (Hopefully...)

:)

BTW, Candylane and Sweet Lights were closed on Sunday because of the power outages all across our area. :( But they reopened Monday. :)

As expected-who in their right mind would put on a light show when the power's shot?

Yeah, I got your IM. Have fun...grr, four and a half hours away does NOT help me!

[The Storm Runner]

I didn't bother uploading pictures and everything, because they're really dark. Also, there's nothing there. Just some footers. Actually, there were quite a few sorta in a line (a heap of them going in one direction), and some random other places. But no supports or track yet. :(

Also, it's rumored ECW at the Boardwalk is getting heated water! :) 75 degrees!

And, as always, Candylane was awesome with its amazing array of lights everywhere. :)

[3xinvert]

I kinda figured they wouldn't be that done with the footers as of now. With the crazy past few weeks you guys had, who knows when they'll be done?

[p0tat0]

I would of thought this ride would have been built already. It's really not that big of a ride. O well. The ride should be up quick since it finally got the track.

[TheLightningRacer]

Yesterday i went to Candylane and it was packed went over to Farhrenheit and they have poured some of the footers and they took out the old milk can booth. I looked all over and was not able to spot track pieces.

[The Storm Runner]

As we were driving on Hersheypark Drive past the park, I couldn't spot any track. I did think I did at first, but then it turned out to be supports and beams and stuff. Now that I think about it, did I see track? :confused: I can't remember. :(

[The Storm Runner]

Sorry to rain on your parade, but those would be benches. Benches in Pioneer Frontier (and various other places of the park) are orangish pieces of wood in concrete lol.

Sorry! Besides, they would have had it up by now if it was track. And if the footers and supports weren't ready, then it wouldn't be there.

But no, those are benches.

[3xinvert]

^To be honest, I have never seen orange benches in Pioneer Frontier before. Brown? Yes. Orange? No.

[Sam]

Those look brown to me.

[Michael]

I should just delete that post :p Now you guys are just making fun of me ;)
j/k


I am really surprised no track has showed up though...

[The Storm Runner]

I can't find a close up pick of those benches, but this is the color:

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5943/benchesos9.png

Why are we talking about benches anyway? lol

Back to Fahrenheit...

[3xinvert]

Random discussion pertaining to Fahrenheit (and Michael's misperception) that came out of nowhere. :D jk Mike!

[Michael]

^ haha, very funny ;)


Nick, you said there were supports on site somewhere, do you know if any have been mounted to the footers yet? Or are the footers still sitting in place?

[The Storm Runner]

I just saw stuff in the parking lot, nothing more, unfortunatley.

On the happier side, Hersheypark's website...got hot!

http://www.hersheypa.com/attractions/hersheypark/index.php

And with it, "The Howler"

http://www.hersheypa.com/attractions/hersheypark/rides/detail.php?id=32&Submit2.x=34&Submit2.y=5&Submit2=Search

:)

EDIT: At the top of the main page, there are two styles of the website - "Heat up" and "Cool down" (Orange and blue)

[Batman: The Member]

I would gladly want Fahrenhiet to be built, but name isn't very good.

[Brandon]

I would gladly want Fahrenhiet to be built, but name isn't very good.

Actually, I think of it the other way around. I think the name is a great name, but the layout, not so much. It actually reminds me of some of my RCT3 coasters I made when I was a n00b to the game.

[Sam]

^ But you have to admit, it will be a pretty awesome ride when it's done. ;)

[Michael]

Actually, I think of it the other way around. I think the name is a great name, but the layout, not so much. It actually reminds me of some of my RCT3 coasters I made when I was a n00b to the game.

I agree. Though the layout isn't top notch, it's still going to be quite a thriller :cool:

[Jake]

I don't understand why you don't appreciate the layout. It has a unique element, is compact, has plenty of airtime, and should pack quite the punch - much like Maverick does. I'm really looking forward to the reviews for this ride, it should be a big hit.

[3xinvert]

I just saw stuff in the parking lot, nothing more, unfortunatley.

On the happier side, Hersheypark's website...got hot!

http://www.hersheypa.com/attractions/hersheypark/index.php

And with it, "The Howler"

http://www.hersheypa.com/attractions/hersheypark/rides/detail.php?id=32&Submit2.x=34&Submit2.y=5&Submit2=Search

:)

EDIT: At the top of the main page, there are two styles of the website - "Heat up" and "Cool down" (Orange and blue)

Soon as the season starts, this is my homepage. April 1st, zing!

I like it a lot. It really reflects how HP is going above and beyond for Season #101.


^ But you have to admit, it will be a pretty awesome ride when it's done. ;)

Seconded.


I don't understand why you don't appreciate the layout. It has a unique element, is compact, has plenty of airtime, and should pack quite the punch - much like Maverick does. I'm really looking forward to the reviews for this ride, it should be a big hit.

I'm no psychic, but it may have something to do with how it looked on the animation that HP has up. NoLimits can do that to a person. If they can give an artist's rendering or something, then maybe it would be better.

Wait-didn't they use something NoLimits-esque for SR's release?

[Sam]

The track is finally here!


Here are some pictures from BrandonsCoasters.

http://brandonscoasters.com/rcdbhersheyfahrenheit1.htm

[Dan]

The colors don't look as bright and shiny as I had hoped but it may just be the quality of those pictures, the weather, or a combination.

[Voyage100]

Hope this would give me a great impact, as I saw its gigantic layout. The first drop with more than 90 degrees, tons of loopy elements, pretty intense packed turns, are going to make me freak out. =)

[The Storm Runner]

That's such a random place to the put the track! lol I guess they didn't want to bring all the track over to the employee parking lot or else they might feel stressed and hurried...

Seeing those pics, it makes me wonder if they chose those colors because they're the school colors of Hershey (schools).

Now we'll see some real contruction. :)

[Michael]

I like the orange, but I think the blue might clash a little bit with the orange track. It might be a little hard on the eyes :p

But it will be a great ride, certainly one of Hershey's best.

[3xinvert]

I like the orange, but I think the blue might clash a little bit with the orange track. It might be a little hard on the eyes :p

But it will be a great ride, certainly one of Hershey's best.

Looking at the track, I think that the coaster may have a GOLIATH (SFMM) color scheme, no? Orange and teal?

Oh, sweet lord...the snow...I forgot about the snow. Wonder how that'll go with orange...:D

[The Storm Runner]

^Don't worry, it's just flurrying. :) For now...

The supports are "cobalt blue" according to the website, so we're really looking at more of a orange-dark blue complimentary mix. With a couple years of fading, I think it'll look pretty good. :) lol

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

That paint combination is amazing, like a more modern Talon (without the yellow).

All those blue/red/black/silver combinations are so overplayed, I like this originality a lot.

[Mike T]

The trend has always been to either use a complimentary combination or a Primary/Secondary/Neutral combination. Its much more appealing to the eye and it helps things stand out. So its really no surprise that this color combination works, and I'm sure you'll see more of the same kind of combinations for years to come on many coasters.

[3xinvert]

That paint combination is amazing, like a more modern Talon (without the yellow).

All those blue/red/black/silver combinations are so overplayed, I like this originality a lot.

Don't forget the yellow mixed in there.

The two Goliaths (SFOG an LaRonde) have some yellow, I think...

[Mike T]

That paint combination is amazing, like a more modern Talon (without the yellow).

All those blue/red/black/silver combinations are so overplayed, I like this originality a lot.

Read that one more time for me please. :)

[3xinvert]

Apparently my backspace button is uncooperative...sorry.

[Mike T]

Lol not a problem, it just raised an eyebrow with me since you quoted it in your post.

Its great to see this coaster going up so quickly. But I have a question. In the animation, the coaster dips low into the cobra roll. Can somebody tell me where this elevation change is, or perhaps provide an overview so I can see how the ride will fit into the park's layout? I'm a bit unfamiliar with Hershey and need some help.

Thank you

[3xinvert]

I can't pinpoint it from the animation, but I think there's a hill that was behind the now-trashed WCO for a couple catering areas. I remember going up a hill behind it to eat lunch with my school when we went in May.


(Nick...help me out here....:))

[The Storm Runner]

Well, the area around the Frog Bog games, by the Rodeo, by the bridge that goes over towards Storm Runner is relatively flat. But then there is a gradual decline going down towards the Boardwalk/Tidal Force area. After that, yes, it does go back up towards the Wildcat and TF catering areas. It's sorta like a big cone going into the ground, and this area is 1/4 of it. I'm not sure if that makes sense, lol.

[Mike T]

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4015/hpbf9.jpg

So like this then?

[The Storm Runner]

I was actually thinking with the cobra roll going towards the blue building near the top of that screen (Wildcat Catering). Going towards the shadow of WCO and towards the blue building, that's where it goes down, and then back up towards the blue building.

Idk though, that's the area I was thinking of for the station of the ride. I guess we'll just have to see. :)

[Mike T]

Ah that makes much more sense now. Thanks for clearing that up Nick. :)

[3xinvert]

I was actually thinking with the cobra roll going towards the blue building near the top of that screen (Wildcat Catering). Going towards the shadow of WCO and towards the blue building, that's where it goes down, and then back up towards the blue building.

Idk though, that's the area I was thinking of for the station of the ride. I guess we'll just have to see. :)

Funny, I was thinking of that. But I reversed it. Now that I watched the animation again, I can see that now.

[deaconnor]

This ride looks so fun. Wish I could make it up there but I probably won't.

[Nate]

Just got back from Chocolate World and I grabbed a few pictures of the track. They show the colors of the ride much better then the other pictures. http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/01/18/fahrenheit-construction-118/

[The Storm Runner]

And to think I was in Hershey this morning...lol. Those do look rather bright. I'm sure it'll all look really nice when it's all built. Beautiful pictures of Lightning Racer, by the way! That one on the page with the rest of the Fahrenheit pics baffled me for a couple moments. I was being foolish and thought that was the first drop (which you'd have to be inside the park to get that angle for). Then like 10 seconds later, "Oh, that's the second hill, duh." lol

It's remarkable how we just got all that snow yesterday evening, and now it's practically gone. :)

Thanks, Nate! :)

[Jake]

Great pictures, Nate! This ride looks saweet!

[sheikra182]

Thanks Nate....now I am going crazy and can't wait to ride Fahrenheit lol. But being serious, nice job on snagging those photos. They look great! I love how the support colors look. They are alot brighter than I thought they would be but they look great. I really do think that the orange and blue color scheme will work out nicely.

[CedarFair Kinda Guy!]

I think that this rollercoaster looks intresting. The colors are very cool, they make it stand out a lot!! I think it's a smart move by the park!! The layout seems intresting, a mix of all the Intamine launch concepts! I can't wait to see supports and track in place!!

[Nate]

Hey welcome to the site. I'm pretty pumped about the ride also. I'm just a little concerned about the capacity of the ride. It does not have an launches in it. The coaster is pretty much a "standard" Intiman looper with a vertical lift hill.

[chrisps]

I enjoyed seeing the pictures of the Fahrenheit track laying in the spot that you have taken the picture of it I can't wait to see this coaster when it is finished and opened this year at Hersheypark I hope that you take more pictures of this ride during the constitution of this coaster at Hersheypark this year as the ride get fished been built this year at Hersheypark. I hope that you go back to the park sometime soon to get more pictures of this coaster during the constitution of this ride this year at the park. I hope that you get pictures of the coaster when the hill is put up and the coaster starts to go vitral I hope that happens sometime soon at Hershey park. I might be going to a Hershey bars game this weekend I hope to go to this game this weekend so I can see the constitution of this coaster I hope that the hill goes up sometime soon on this coaster at Hersheypark sometime soon if I go to the Hershey bears game this weekend with my friend I will let you know what has been done on this coaster this weekend if I go past the area of the constitution area where this coaster is this weekend at Hershey park.

[3xinvert]

^Uhm...welcome...haven't seen you around yet (ya think we should have an 'Introduce Yourself' thread here?)

Nate and Nick (TSR) are the only two people that I can think of who would have an opportunity to get a few shots of said monumental undertakings over the offseason, as tey live the closest.

(This has nothing agianst you, it's just that they have provided the most HP photos to date on here...)

[chrisps]

I am reger person not a bot. I live in southcentral pa and I only live 30 minutes away form Hersheypark. I have been to Hershey park a lot before and I enjoy the park alot ever year that I go to the park. I hope the someone on this site gets more pictures of the coasters constion sometime soon on this site. I am going to a Hershey bears game this weekend so I might be able to see the track and what has been done at the park this week if I can get close enough to the constion area of the park this weekend I will let everyone on this site know about the constitution of this coaster this weekend when I go to the Hershey bears game this weekend. I am sorry if I repeat myself a lot on this site I have autism and a luring disability so that is what I repeat myself a lot on this site and that is way my spelling is defend then a regular person on this site. I am not a normal person I have high functioning austim and I can'nt help it the way that I spell things on this site I don'nt want anyone to pick on me becuse I cant spell things correctly on this site is just part of my austim so I am sorry about that.

[Jake]

Okay, if your not a bot, then break up your posts into separate paragraphs.. And try to make your posts legible at the least.

[chrisps]

I am sorry for posting that same things over and over again on this site. I have autism and it is hard for me to spell things correctly on this site and other sites. I also repeat myself a lot that is part of my autism I can'nt help that. I live 30 minutes away form Hersheypark I live in Lancaster county pa so I live only 30 minutes away form the park. I am going to go to a Hershey bars hockey game on Saturday and I will look for the track and see what has been done to the coaster this week when I go to the Hockey game at Hershey this weekend. I am going to this game with my best friend this weekend and he said that he will take me past the park to see what has been done to the new coaster at the park. I will let everyone on this site know in this topic what I saw this weekend when I comeback form the Hockey game at Hershey this weekend and I will post about it on this site in this topic. I hope that someone on this site gets pictures of this coaster this weekend as the coaster is been built this year at Hershey park this year.

[CedarFair Kinda Guy!]

Hey welcome to the site. I'm pretty pumped about the ride also. I'm just a little concerned about the capacity of the ride. It does not have an launches in it. The coaster is pretty much a "standard" Intiman looper with a vertical lift hill.


That is true, I ment from the concepts of other launch coasters was the inversons, they come from Intamine launch coasters, the pretzel dive from SpeedMonster?, and the tight corckscrews or w/e they call them, kinda like Maverick's. But your right it is a lift looping coaster!! (Thanks for the correction :D)

[3xinvert]

That is true, I ment from the concepts of other launch coasters was the inversons, they come from Intamine launch coasters, the pretzel dive from SpeedMonster?, and the tight corckscrews or w/e they call them, kinda like Maverick's. But your right it is a lift looping coaster!! (Thanks for the correction :D)

I think this one falls more under the 'more Maverick-like' of coasters...both were built by IntaRide, and they have the same train stylings (notice the 3-car similarities?), but the Pretzel could've been taken from any ride...Speed Monster, S: UF, anything...

That's just my opinion...

Oh, and new guy from Lancaster (I'm horrible wih names), I'm'a have to agree with Jake. I can understand your situation with your LDs, but separating out your thoughts would greatly help us. That's not to, you know, offend, or anything, that's just what I learned when I first came here (I'm sure Mike T remembers that VEERRRRYYY well...)

Grazie. :D

[The Storm Runner]

Actually, I think this is more like Speed Monster. The 3-car trains; the Norwegian loop; the corkscrew. Looking back at Maverick, I guess it's a mix between the two. ;) Over-vertical drop, low turns, and all the other goodies involved. :)

[3xinvert]

^See, that's what I was thinking. Cross between Speed Monster and Maverick.

Oh, my Bio teacher would LOOOVVVE this...genetics right now, whoopee! :p

[Youhow2]

^my bio teacher loved talking about sex, and how everything reproduces... every single class.... "look at the trees, their. soooooo. nasty, look at them ready to do it..."

Mind you it was a 45 year old white women who acted like she was a stereo-typical 18 year old blonde...


Any how, that is entirely off the subject. I came here to post about the comparing of every single intamin ride to maverick...


Simply put, every ride is it's own ride while comparing it to other rides is fine, I find the excessive use of comparing rides to one rollercoaster that stood on it's own ground a bit frustrating... I even recall seeing someone compare the spongebob coaster at moa to maverick...

[Dan]

Simply put, every ride is it's own ride while comparing it to other rides is fine, I find the excessive use of comparing rides to one rollercoaster that stood on it's own ground a bit frustrating... I even recall seeing someone compare the spongebob coaster at moa to maverick...Manufacturers and designers look back at the past a lot, at flops and hits, at what worked and what didn't. Why shouldn't we?

[Youhow2]

I understand your concept, but still I just wish people could look at other designs, and rides, to diversify the focus of the thread with different thoughts, instead of discussing the same coaster over and over again, and how it relates to other rides...

[Dan]

The thing is, Maverick has become the well-known benchmark, shall I say, for most of the newer Intamins coming out. I do agree that putting it with Spongebob is a bit over the top, but so be it.

[Youhow2]

I'll agree that maverick is very impressive, but pretty much everything other than that new inversion has been done before on other rides...

[chrisps]

I think that this new coaster is going to be fun to get on this summer at Hersheypark.

Did anyone on this site go to Hersheypark this week? I hope that someone on this site goes to Hersheypark this weekend to get pictures of what is happening with Fahrenheit. I am going to a hockey game in Hershey this weekend and I will let everyone know what I see when I go. My best friend said that he would take me past the constitution of the coaster this weekend and to look at the track that is laying in the parking lot. It is going to snow her in Lancaster PA this weekend, on Saturday afternoon into Saturday night, but I am still going to take a look at the track.

I also think that this coaster is going to be fun to ride this summer... but I think that the wait for this ride is going to be really long.

[Jake]

I'll agree that maverick is very impressive, but pretty much everything other than that new inversion has been done before on other rides...

Ding Ding Ding! That's why it's so easily compared to other rides. Because many rides have at least one inversion or maneuver that is in, or resembles Maverick.

[Youhow2]

Because many rides have at least one inversion or maneuver that is in, or resembles Maverick.


And this is why I wonder why everyone compares it to just maverick...

GP1:Hey that looks like that turn on anaconda,
GP2:No, it looks more like the one on maverick
GP1&2:Yeah!

maverick is not the only coaster in exsistence...

[Jake]

Bogus comparison.

Maverick is a ride that everyone knows all about, so it is an easy one to compare to. Not everyone knows what the layout of Anaconda looks out, but most enthusiasts have seen the animation or a video of Maverick.

Why the hate for Maverick? I'm not sure if you've been on it before, but it is a great ride. Not just another overhyped Cedar Point attraction.

[Youhow2]

I have and it is good, very good,extremely fun... but in my book it is reaching the boundries of over-hypeness... I still can honestly say that maverick is barely in my top twenty...It's seriously not even in my top ten. But that does not mean it is not a good ride. If I had more time(and money) to take my 1 day trip to drive to cp more often then a once or maybe two or 3 times a year, and I could ride it more and soak in the ride experience, I would probaly rate it higher... So far I believe I've ridden 3 times.


I swear there are alot of good rollercoasters that have some elements maverick has, that are pretty famous.

[Nate]

Hooray for Maverick discussion in the Fahrenheit topic.

I don't think I'll be getting out to the park today, maybe next week though.

[Jake]

^ Sad that the Maverick discussion is better then the Fahrenheit discussion ever was.


I swear there are alot of good rollercoasters that have some elements maverick has, that are pretty famous.

But not all of the exact same elements. Maverick is unique because it has many different elements wrapped up into one package. That's something no other coaster has. Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not.

[3xinvert]

Aww, my post got deleted...

Is there any way we could possibly get back on topic here? Like, only REFERENCING Maverick, not ARGUING about it?

[Tom]

Is there any way we could possibly get back on topic here? Like, only REFERENCING Maverick, not ARGUING about it?

PLEASE!!! Its a bit ridiculous! I think Fahrenheit is going to be a good coaster, unique in its own, and fun.

O, and you can compare ANY coaster to ANY other coaster. They all consist of steel, so they are all alike. Maverick is not the greatest thing since Peanut Butter & Jelly folks, so ya, Fahrenheit should be fun and hopefully I will get to ride it someday.

[Dan]

PLEASE!!! Its a bit ridiculous! I think Fahrenheit is going to be a good coaster, unique in its own, and fun.

O, and you can compare ANY coaster to ANY other coaster. They all consist of steel, so they are all alike. Maverick is not the greatest thing since Peanut Butter & Jelly folks, so ya, Fahrenheit should be fun and hopefully I will get to ride it someday.Fahrenheit shares a lot of features with Maverick, and it's obvious some inspiration came from it whilst designing the new ride. I'd say the popularity of the ride will be less than Maverick, but it'll still be pretty close. I wonder how it'll compare to Storm Runner, I hope to get some comparisons from regular park guests at some point.

[Nate]

I really don't think that much of it came from Maverick. Look at any of their new looping coasters, they all have a little in common with one another. The biggest problem that this ride will have is capacity.

If you go by just looks, Fahrenheit will be better then Storm Runner, as it looks like you get more bang for your buck. But we will have to wait and see if that is true when the ride actually opens.

[EmperorNorton]

From watching the animated POV and the pictures, this actully looks really fun. I don't see why people are so skeptical about this ride.

[3xinvert]

From watching the animated POV and the pictures, this actully looks really fun. I don't see why people are so skeptical about this ride.

It really confuses me too, but from what I can pull out of it is that it's:

A) too small
B) too little RPH totals
C) a Maverick-style clone

Whatever, I like the ride...

[The Storm Runner]

^Maverick-style clone?

Maverick:
LSM Lift Hill
95 degree drop
Turns
Airtime Hill
Two adjacent corkscrews with a turn in the middle
LSM Launch
Airtime hill/spiral dive
S-curve
Various Stengel dives and hills

Fahrenheit:
Vertical Chain lift
97 degree drop
Norwegian Loop
Cobra Roll
Double Corkscrews
Little Overbank
Airtime hill
Turn
Bunny hill

Call me crazy, but I find them like 2nd cousins...

[Mike T]

I never knew that just because a ride has shorter trains, constitutes it for being a clone of something else. That'd be like me telling you that Oblivion and Griffon are near clones , or Speed monster and Kanonen being near clones because they both launch and have short trains. Don't look at the trains to make judgments, look at the track... because thats whats going to make or break this coaster.

[SnooSnoo]

^If thats the case, they are related.. like 2nd cousins.. as Storm Runner pointed out.. ;)

[Mike T]

I guess Colossus and Expedition GeForce are also related? Please tell us doctor.

[Jake]

^ How did you come to that conclusion? Maverick and Fahrenheit have many broad similarities. Expedition GeForce and Colossus have nearly nothing in common.

[Mike T]

Well the point I'm trying to make is that although they both have a beyond vertical descent, and although they both have 12 riders per train, the rides pale in comparison. Sure they're made by the same designer, and share the same track structure, but the concepts of both are different from each other. My question comes in to play when I ask why this ride has such a high association with Maverick. If anything, I think Fahrenheit is a bit more like Speed Monster, sharing the same basic fundamental features, sans the launch/drop.

[sirloin]

I find it interesting that so many people are even likening it to an Intamin. I find it more like a novelty oversized Gerstlauer Eurofighter with heavy inspiration from Speed Monster. I honestly think alot of you are comparing it more to Maverick because 1) Maverick is only 1 year Fahrenheit's senior, and 2) most of you only know Maverick.

Here's something to keep in mind: don't think that that one ride you rode and enjoyed is suddenly the inspiration for everything behind it.

I think Mike's joke about Colossus and Expedition GeForce was perfectly appropriate. With regards to the trains, they're that short because they have to be, not because putting 12 seats on a train is some glorious concept that automatically makes a ride better. Also, consider that maybe Maverick's drop was inspired by the wild successes of the Eurofighters. You all need to understand that not every cool idea in the amusement industry was spawned by Arrow, B&M, or Intamin.

Another thing you also need to consider is that maybe some of those elements were repeated for no other reason than they were just awesome. Not everything about Maverick was a first, just like not everything about Fahrenheit will be a first.

I just think that alot of you are so badly itching to have something to compare this ride to that you aren't really thinking things through.

[Tom]

I find it interesting that so many people are even likening it to an Intamin. I find it more like a novelty oversized Gerstlauer Eurofighter with heavy inspiration from Speed Monster. I honestly think alot of you are comparing it more to Maverick because 1) Maverick is only 1 year Fahrenheit's senior, and 2) most of you only know Maverick.

Here's something to keep in mind: don't think that that one ride you rode and enjoyed is suddenly the inspiration for everything behind it.

I think Mike's joke about Colossus and Expedition GeForce was perfectly appropriate. With regards to the trains, they're that short because they have to be, not because putting 12 seats on a train is some glorious concept that automatically makes a ride better. Also, consider that maybe Maverick's drop was inspired by the wild successes of the Eurofighters. You all need to understand that not every cool idea in the amusement industry was spawned by Arrow, B&M, or Intamin.

Another thing you also need to consider is that maybe some of those elements were repeated for no other reason than they were just awesome. Not everything about Maverick was a first, just like not everything about Fahrenheit will be a first.

I just think that alot of you are so badly itching to have something to compare this ride to that you aren't really thinking things through.

I agree with every word you just said, both you and Mike. I really have nothing else to add, because the Eurofighter inspiration was exactly what I was going to say.

[3xinvert]

Well the point I'm trying to make is that although they both have a beyond vertical descent, and although they both have 12 riders per train, the rides pale in comparison. Sure they're made by the same designer, and share the same track structure, but the concepts of both are different from each other. My question comes in to play when I ask why this ride has such a high association with Maverick. If anything, I think Fahrenheit is a bit more like Speed Monster, sharing the same basic fundamental features, sans the launch/drop.

Whoa, calm down. 'Specially you, Nick.

The bolded text was what I meant. Same designer, same trains, etc. Nothing about the layout.

[sirloin]

For it to be a Maverick-style clone, you have to factor in the layout. Other than that, the track and trains are hardly enough to warrant the word clone, or even Maverick-style. By the definition you just provided, Fahrenheit is a Storm Runner/Speed Monster/Rita/Desert Race clone.

And if layout had nothing to do with what you were saying, why did you bother putting "they both have a beyond-vertical descent" in bold?

[Michael]

For it to be a Maverick-style clone, you have to factor in the layout. Other than that, the track and trains are hardly enough to warrant the word clone, or even Maverick-style. By the definition you just provided, Fahrenheit is a Storm Runner/Speed Monster/Rita/Desert Race clone.

And if layout had nothing to do with what you were saying, why did you bother putting "they both have a beyond-vertical descent" in bold?

Exactly

A clone has to have an identical layout :p

[Jake]

I don't think anyone was implying that these two rides were in any way clones. But you would have to be daft to not see the similarities between the two. They are both Intamin coasters that have beyond vertical drops, they are around the same height. They both feature a twisting layout, inversions, and feature a LOT of adrenaline.

So in those aspects, the two rides are definitely similar, although definitely not identical.

[sirloin]

First off, the beyond-vertical drop is a characteristic of more than just Fahrenheit and Maverick. As I said, Eurofighters have that as well. I will concede that yes, that is a similarity, but all of the other similarities you have listed apply to more coasters than I can count. Our main question is what makes Maverick so special?

Simply put, it takes alot more than a drop angle to throw two rides into a similar family. By your logic, I could consider SheiKra and Oblivion to be in two completely different families because Oblivion's drop never actually goes fully vertical.

Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with Fahrenheit being compared to Maverick, but it's the fact that many of you are making them out to be overly similar that has Mike and I questioning your logic. Really, the two are only vaguely similar. There are an extreme amount of differences between them.

[Youhow2]

I've been trying to say that!

[Jake]

First off, the beyond-vertical drop is a characteristic of more than just Fahrenheit and Maverick. As I said, Eurofighters have that as well. I will concede that yes, that is a similarity, but all of the other similarities you have listed apply to more coasters than I can count. Our main question is what makes Maverick so special?


Last time I checked Eurofighters are not Intamin, which was the basis for most of my comparisons. How about reading my whole post next time, buddy.

[Tom]

Umm of course they are not the same. They are BASED off of Eurofighters though, realize that. EVERY coaster has a few similarities with each other. A break run and station are found on every ride, so we can say that Top Thrill Dragster and Cornball Express are definitely similar, but not clones.

They are made by the same company, they have short trains, thats about it with similarities. Maverick's drop is less steep, Fahrenheit has no launch or Stengel Dives or Horseshoe roll etc etc. They are not as similar as you guys are making them seem.

[Jake]

^ That was easily the least intelligent post in this thread.

If you would go back and read my original post you would see that the similarities run much deeper then "short trains and a station".

[Nate]

They share the same manufacturer, train design, track, drop, but not much else. I think they do have things in common, but I do not think that Fahrenheit is based off of Maverick. I'm not seeing the beyond vertical drop as something to write home about in terms of calling them the same. Many coasters are now featuring the same type of drops. Just because a manufacturer has more then one coaster with the same style drop doesn't mean the designs are based off of each other.

Again I see where people could draw similarities, but to say one is based off the other is going a bit too far.

[Dan]

The short, quick and compact style may be what makes us compare them the most. Most popular Intamins are huge and elegant, but the company has pulled off some awesome designs. The style of Maverick and Fahrenheit are extremely similar...they are based on a compact, quick coaster style -- like the Eurofighters.

[Mike T]

My point is that the coaster is original enough to stand on its own. It doesn't need the descendants of Maverick and Speed to be something notable. This is the first time that I've seen a coaster like this created, and although it shares the Norwegian Loop element, the Cobra Roll, and a few screws with other rides, depending on the speed that it executes those elements is whats going to make the ride different. My point above was that if you are going to call Fahrenheit a spin-off of Maverick, then I'm going to point out the relationship between the radical coasters of Collossus and Expedition GeForce. As somebody retorted, "How do those two relate?", they really don't, other than the same reasons that Maverick and Fahrenheit have any sort of relation.

Fahrenheit has a lot of great things going for it, and the fact that this ride is going to provide some nice doses of airtime along with a sustained force of 4.5 positive G's at the valley of that loop is enough to sell it as an interesting ride for me.

[Jake]

My point is that the coaster is original enough to stand on its own. It doesn't need the descendants of Maverick and Speed to be something notable. This is the first time that I've seen a coaster like this created, and although it shares the Norwegian Loop element, the Cobra Roll, and a few screws with other rides, depending on the speed that it executes those elements is whats going to make the ride different. My point above was that if you are going to call Fahrenheit a spin-off of Maverick, then I'm going to point out the relationship between the radical coasters of Collossus and Expedition GeForce. As somebody retorted, "How do those two relate?", they really don't, other than the same reasons that Maverick and Fahrenheit have any sort of relation.

I don't think anyone believes that Fahrenheit is a "Maverick Spinoff", except for a few Cedar Point fanboys. So I'm not really sure who it is you are addressing.

[Mike T]

I'm not "addressing" anybody, just adding to the discussion as to what I think of the ride based on what other posters have said about it.

[Jake]

...so you were merely saying that Maverick and Fahrenheit are not similar at all? For no reason? That doesn't make much sense to me, but okay.

[Mike T]

Yep thats exactly what I was doing..

If anybody actually wants to continue talking about Fahrenheit, just let me know and I'd be happy to carry on with you.

[Michael]

^ Isn't that what this thread is for? :stick_tongue:
j/k

Okay, enough of the arguing. Maverick is similar to Fahrenheit.



I really just can't wait for some construction...

[3xinvert]

Off topic, but...

Whoa. When'd we get new smileys?

(back on topic)

Got any inside info, Mr. Storm Runner? :laugh:

[The Storm Runner]

I'm going to see Spamalot at the Hershey Theatre tonight (across the street from Great Bear, kinda), so whether or not I'll be able to go over to Hersheypark Drive is a mystery...

[sirloin]

Okay, enough of the arguing. Maverick is similar to Fahrenheit.A little lesson: if you try and tell people to stop arguing, then throw in your 2 cents on the subject matter they were arguing about, you've officially opened yourself to the blasting of a lifetime. Trust me. I tried that trick once and Ryan Sickles totally dropped a nuke on me. I kindly returned the favor, but that's neither here nor there.

Maverick is similar to Fahrenheit. Collossus is similar to Expedition GeForce. Valleyfair!'s Mad Mouse is similar to SFMM's Viper. By the logic presented here, I could pretty much call any two rides similar.

As for the actual ride this topic is supposed to be discussing, I do think it's success may very well open the door for Intamin to return to the non-launching looper market. Perhaps these outrageous maneuvers, and the fact that they allow a surprisingly massive ride to be shoehorned into such a small space, might bring the opportunity to market these rides successfully to small parks or even major parks with space issues (SFOT, for example).

[Michael]

A little lesson: if you try and tell people to stop arguing, then throw in your 2 cents on the subject matter they were arguing about, you've officially opened yourself to the blasting of a lifetime. Trust me. I tried that trick once and Ryan Sickles totally dropped a nuke on me. I kindly returned the favor, but that's neither here nor there.

I was just summing up the obvious, that yes Maverick could be considered similar. So why were we arguing over something so stupid? :p

[sirloin]

I was just summing up the obvious, that yes Maverick could be considered similar. So why were we arguing over something so stupid? :pSeveral reasons:

1) I can never let anything go for some reason.

2) People need to factor in that just because they haven't ridden the ride most similar to an upcoming attraction, the closest thing to it that they have ridden is not suddenly the closest thing to it, period.

3) I like making a fool out of myself by taking the time to correct kids 4-5 years younger than me on the stupidest issues that probably wouldn't even come up if everyone here were a few years older and took a little more time to think things through before saying them.

I hope those reasons are satisfactory enough.

[RaptorOMGZ]

I think this ride looks pretty exciting, but it also has many inversions which may make it unappealing for people who don't like rides like that. Do you think this will effect it at all?

[Youhow2]

Several reasons:

1) I can never let anything go for some reason.

2) People need to factor in that just because they haven't ridden the ride most similar to an upcoming attraction, the closest thing to it that they have ridden is not suddenly the closest thing to it, period.

3) I like making a fool out of myself by taking the time to correct kids 4-5 years younger than me on the stupidest issues that probably wouldn't even come up if everyone here were a few years older and took a little more time to think things through before saying them.

I hope those reasons are satisfactory enough.



Dude, I totally understand where your coming from, but when people are close-minded and think they are right, or have a opinion that may seem lame to you, your never going to get far with them. We might as well(even though I highly disagree) say that maverick and fahrenheit are similar due to vague differences that can describe any and all rollercoasters... I

Knew this was coming so I got out of here 4 pages ago...

[The Storm Runner]

Ok, I just got back from Spamalot at the Hershey Theatre (which was awesome, btw :thumbup2:), and after a torrential downpour and fighting Hershey Bears hockey game traffic, I managed to pass Hersheypark via Hersheypark Drive. :biggrin: From what I could see, quite a few track pieces were there (more bendy than the track that showed up earlier), as well as supports. However, I couldn't see any track in place over at the site. The only vertical thing there was the crane (which was pretty tall, too). This was at night though, so I probably (and hopefully) am wrong. :)

[Nate]

There are a few support pieces in place. I'm hoping to be getting some pictures on Friday of the new track and vertical construction. Hershey said that they are on schedule for construction at East Coaster.

[3xinvert]

That's good...hopefully Nick's assumption will be proven true and we'll have some new shtuff to look at and forward to.

If I didn't live four hours away, I'd be there constantly...

[The Storm Runner]

New update at Coasterdom: http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/02/15/fahrenheit-construction-update-2-15/

So far, they've gotten the brake run, ending track, and I'm guessing station track, in addition to many supports. :tongue_smilie:

Based on the pictures, this affirms that the cobra roll will be going towards the Wildcat, well, more towards Tidal Force. :smile: (Actually, it was confirmed before. Those supports in a row (brake run): I saw the footers for them at Candylane. I thought there was a relationship between them :smile: lol)

[Nate]

I was out there again today to grab some new shots of the coaster. New track is in place and the ride is looking awesome. Check it out here: http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/02/21/fahrenheit-construction-update-2-21/

[The Storm Runner]

Gone up to the Gardens? Nice. :smile:

That almost-overbank piece of track is looking mighty fine. That clearance looks pretty low though, the brake run and the other piece. It could just be the angle though.

Thanks, Nate! :smile:

[tycooner55]

Looking good. I know this will be a great ride.

[GeorgeBC]

Cheers for the update Nate!

I've not really said much on Fahrenheit, but it looks like it will be nothing short of an impressive coaster, although I'm not a fan of the colours blue and red being used together, it'll certainly stand out if that is what they want but blue and red is not a good colour combination for me personally.

It'll be interesting to hear how this compares to the Eurofighter and what I will find interesting is whether this gimmick/ride type Intamin is offering will catch on like Gerstlauer's Eurofighter.

[CedarFair Kinda Guy!]

Ok so I really like the colors there very bright!! It stands out a lot and the turn that is in place is very nice looking!! :001_cool: Can't wait for the next update!!

[Dan]

They are definately very Hershey Park colors. It would fit better closer to the boardwalk :biggrin:

That banked turn looks phenomenal! They're putting it up fairly quickly, can't wait for the next update. Thanks Nate!

[Michael]

I thought I drooled on my keyboard when I saw that overbank :w00t:

That headchopper is going to be insane. I really need to make it out to Hershey sometime soon... that and Stormrunner are just killing me.

[theRock-steel]

I'm looking forward to this new ride. Storm Runner and Great Bear were a little disappointing. They both aren't nearly long enough. On the other hand, Sidewinder, Trailblazer, and all the woodens were much better than expected. This medium length Intamin with some unusual elements should work to keep Hershey my 2nd favorite park. :roll_eyes:

[Mike T]

The ride really seems to be coming along right now, which is a good thing. Hopefully they can stay on schedule with thinks, and hopefully the installation of the double chain drive wont give them Maverick syndrome. I don't really see whats so awesome about that curve, but I guess if it makes you guys happy then so be it. Personally I'm more excited about watching that Norwegian Loop being constructed more than anything. I'll be excited to make size comparisons to its little brother over at Tusenfryd.

[3xinvert]

^I thought Speed Monster would be its older brother, since it IS older... ;)

jk.

Mike (the other mike)-I have only two words if those two coaster are making you think that:

GO ALREADY! :cool1: Summer=perfect time to go!

Anyway, love the update Nate. Good to see some track and footers finally going up. The skyline's gona be MUCH different this year.

[The Storm Runner]

He meant "little" as in size, not age. :smile:

EDIT: wow.....

[SnooSnoo]

^That just sounds even worse.. ;)

[3xinvert]

You, sir, are crazy.

Although you DO have a point...:o

[Nate]

The lift is on it's way up! Check out the new photos here: http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/02/28/fahrenheit-construction-update-2-28

[The Storm Runner]

It seems like now, track will be going up very quickly. :smile:

Very fine looking so far. :love:

[sirloin]

You know, I was completely off in where I thought this ride would be located. I thought it was off by Roller Soaker and Lightning Racer. Its real location, though, shows yet another example of Hersheypark's unbelievable ability to shoehorn attractions into that park. They never cease to amaze me, but what also gets me is that it's done tactfully. They don't completely destroy the natural beauty of that park (and it has plenty of it), but rather preserve it and find a way to make the rides work with the environment rather than against it.

[3xinvert]

Wow. Grazie for the update Nate.

[Michael]

Link doesn't work Nate.

But I'm glad to see this ride getting done! :smile:

[Nate]

Works fine for me and no one else seemed to have a problem, just give it another try. On Friday they installed the drop, which looks crazy. Should be a lot of things to take pictures of next week.

[Michael]

^ That was weird, my IE sometimes goes out on me :glare:

Nice update, the lift looks like it will have a neat profile. Very shallow curve on that drop, should mean some killer air time :001_cool:

Thanks!

[The Storm Runner]

Yeah, it is quite an awesome sight. :smile: Update coming soon...

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

http://www.rollercoasterpro.com/updates/hp03.03.08/15.jpg (http://www.rollercoasterpro.com/updates/hp03.03.08/index.shtml)
*Click image to go to update


As construction continues on Hersheypark's Fahrenheit, the 97-degree drop becomes complete and the lifthill is near crowned! Thanks to Nick for the photography.



Take me to the Update: http://www.rollercoasterpro.com/updates/hp03.03.08/index.shtml

[The Storm Runner]

Thanks Ryan for the wonderful update/captions. :smile:

Hersheypark has put a Fahrenheit webcam up : http://www.hersheypark.com/fahrenheit/index.php

It appears to be attached to Tidal Force. Also, it appears the second corkscrew's up. :smile: That's pretty high in the air it seems.

[rollercoasterfreek]

The progress looks great. If only I was closer to Hersheypark :sad:.

[Michael]

That drop is just insane.

I can't wait for the Norwiegen Loop though :cool1:

[Nate]

Another update for everyone, the corkscrew is in and it looks great. Update can be found here: http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/03/05/fahrenheit-construction-update-3-05/

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

That's a nice little bunny between the transitions. Thanks for the progress.

[Jake]

Hey guys, we have yet another exclusive update for you all. Check out the link below for the update.

http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/03/06/fahrenheit-update-up-close-and-personal/

Here's a little preview of what you'll see in the update.

http://www.coasterdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/fahrenheit01-custom.jpg

[Michael]

Pics were reeally small, but I loved the update!

Thankyou! :)

[Jake]

I'll post links to the larger versions of the images momentarily.

Check the update again, the images now link to the larger versions.

[The Storm Runner]

Those are some really neat shots! All of those pics looking up are just breathtaking. :smile:

You know what I just noticed, I think the the station will have like a burnt building type of theme, according to this pic : http://www.coasterdom.com/gallery/image.php?d=/Hersheypark/Fahrenheit/Construction/03-06&p=03-06-06

On the left there is the elevator shaft for handicapped people, and I'm guessing lower rightly of that is the place where you look at your picture.

I'm not sure if they are done yet, but so far, it looks like there's a burnt building theme, which fits the name, but Idk if it fits the Boardwalk...and the orange and blue colors

[Sam]

5 months + 8 days until I get to ride this sexy beast! :biggrin:

[Nate]

I'm not sure what the theme, if any, the station will be, but I think the burnt look you are refering to is just wet blocks.

[R.C.]

^That's what I thought too, but I could see how it could look burnt.

I think that a burnt station would look really cool, if it was done correctly. We'll see what they do soon enough...

[chris]

http://www.hersheypark.com/fahrenheit/index.php

The lift is complete!

[The Storm Runner]

^Yes, and I must say it looks magnificent.

A video slideshow of it: http://www3.allaroundphilly.com/chronicleledger/fahrenheit/index.html

And, on the official site, there are 3 construction videos from the construction of the ride in addition to the webcam.
http://www.hersheypark.com/fahrenheit/index.php

I'm gettin' excited! :w00t:

[p0tat0]

^Lol, keep your panties on:tongue:

I've never seen park actually put up videos of construction. I guess they really do acknowledge the enthusiasts

[The Storm Runner]

^I'd say they're more like podcasts, which Cedar Point did for Maverick. Nonetheless, yes, with the Nantimi promo and these, they are very much recognizing enthusiasts. :smile:

[The Storm Runner]

Yet another update at Coasterdom!

http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/03/20/fahrenheit-construction-update-3-20/

Based on this pic: http://www.coasterdom.com/gallery/image.php?d=/Hersheypark/Fahrenheit/Construction/03-20&p=03-05-01

That station looks like it's gonna be huge. Whether that's the loading station and transfers and in one, I'm not sure, but this makes it appear like there will either be separate loading/unloading stations for one train (like X), or (hopefully this one) a Maverick-style station with two trains loading/unloading at once.

Also based on that pic, the new Hershey Museum seems really big in the background there (huge brick block behind parking garage).

[Nate]

There is only one spot in the station where people can get on and off the ride. The station appears so big because the transfer area is covered as well. Fahrenheit will be running three trains. The area where people actually get on and off is very small.

Look at this image (http://www.coasterdom.com/gallery/image.php?d=/Hersheypark/Fahrenheit/Construction/03-12&p=03-05-08) and then this one (http://www.coasterdom.com/gallery/image.php?d=/Hersheypark/Fahrenheit/Construction/03-12&p=03-05-12) you can get an idea of how small this station actually is.

[The Storm Runner]

Ok, nvm then. Just like Lightning Racer, Roller Soaker, and Wildcat's stations appear so big. That is pretty small. Thanks for the clarification, Nate. :smile:

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

http://www.rollercoasterpro.com/updates/hp03.24.08/12.jpg

Construction Update: http://www.rollercoasterpro.com/updates/hp03.24.08/

Supports go up for the Norwegian Loop and the first part of the Airborne Invertest S Roll awaits erection.

[Voyage100]

I have not visited this forum for 22 days, since March 3, and when I checked out the updated page of 'Fahrenheit', I was so stunned that most of the tracks were already up. Feel like putting supports will be done and it's ready for the test run. :)

[Ultimate Coaster]

The electrical systems still need to be put in place. The good news is that this is conventional lift, so I wouldn't count on it being to long.

It's amazing how quickly construction progresses when the snow stops.

[The Storm Runner]

http://www.hersheypark.com/fahrenheit/index.php

About 3/4 of the Norwegian loop is up! It's amazing how little the top is supported (then again, it doesn't really need to be, just like SR's top hat).

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1368/325ng9.jpg

[Michael]

Wow :w00t:

What a great addition the the Hershey skyline!

[Ultimate Coaster]

I actually think the skyline looks rather ugly.

The ride's colors are too similar to Storm Runner's colors, and makes it look rather cluttered.

The Norwegian Loop doesn't have to be supported much because it's an arch shape. Just look at Xcelerator's tophat.

[rollercoasterfreak91]

I actually think this is the best color scheme I've seen in a long time. Here's to hoping it doesn't fade quickly.

[Ultimate Coaster]

The color scheme individually is good.

The point I was making is that it conflicts quite heavily with Storm Runner, and makes the skyline look like a Six Flags.

[rollercoasterfreak91]

You're right about that, I like it when there is only one coaster to draw your attention. Besides, from that picture, SR needs a new paint job; maybe it could be different than the red track that's the same as Fahrenheit's.

[Ultimate Coaster]

SR isn't going to have it's color changed.

Fahrenheit is orange, not red.

[rollercoasterfreak91]

Oh, my bad, it looks red in the pictures. :)

[SnooSnoo]

So does Magnum XL-200, and we all know Magnum isn't red.. ;)

[Michael]

^ lol :lol:

I noticed that in some of the pictures, I guess it's just the webcam quality :blink:

[3xinvert]

So does Magnum XL-200, and we all know Magnum isn't red.. ;)

Pfft.

Looks good so far...dammit, July can't come fast enough!

[Nate]

Hey I just got back and have another update for all of you. You can find it here: http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/04/01/fahrenheit-construction-update-4-01/

Judging by the webcam the cobra roll piece that was missing when I took my pictures has been installed. They had to do it when I left didn't they :)

[Jumpman23]

Wow, that norwegian loop looks intense.

[Nate]

Just got back from SringTime at Hershey, and Fahrenheit is moving along. You can see all of the pictures here: http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/04/05/fahrenheit-construction-update-4-05/

If you want the quick, non-visual, version; the station looks like a church, two pieces of track left, and lots of sand going into the supports.

[chris]

So the track is done? Cool cant wait to ride this monster!

[Arez]

two pieces of track left


So the track is done?

I'll take that as a no.

-Alex