RCT2: Any Way To Remove Scenery Limit?

[Adema1226]

You know how in the scenario editor it only allows you to select a few scenery themes? Is there any way to select ALL the scenery themes and have every object from each theme? I was told you can do this in 8 cars per trainer, but I can't figure out how to do it.

Also, is there any way to increase or decrease the number of trains on a coaster without closing it first? I hate when the line gets blocked to the entrance and I have to close the ride just to put in more trains, because then everyone leaves the line and won't come back. I changed the number of trains in 8 cars per trainer without closing the ride and it did nothing.

[Steelinwood]

You could try the 8 cars trainer. It allows you to do loads of things including adding 8 cars per train.

[rcwhiz]

No it is impossible even with trainers

[Duke]

Tis true, there is no way around the object limits. Those are hard coded into the game.
To change the limit, you would need to reprogram the code, which could ruin your game.
Best to leave it alone.

Here are some tips for you to help out. (Assuming you are familiar with the scenario editor.)
When you select your scenery, choose as many sets as you can, I think the limit is 16 tabs total. (this includes the 6 default tabs)
First you want to take out as much of the default tab items as possible. You MUST leave at least ONE item in each of these tabs, if not the saved game will not play. They are: Trees, shrubs, fences, Gardens, Paths, walls.
Leaving one item in each tab will give you space to select other items.

Once you do this, you can edit the pieces in the other tab groups. Look through each tab and take note of the in game name of the items you want to remove. Go back to the scenario editor, click advanced, click the small scenery tab (most scenery is this type), find the objects you want to remove. This will lower your total object count and give you lots of room for your misc. tab.

Now you can scroll through the tabs in the editor and pick your Misc. Objects. The limit for this tab is 90+ objects. I can't recall the exact number but it's somewhere around 90.

The last tip is to choose objects that can be used in various ways and MT (multi-tile) objects. Most of these are actually small scenery but have been edited so they appear in the large scenery tab. This will save you room in the small scenery selection.

There is an application called Park Dat that will remove and add objects to a saved game, but the same rules apply as above AND you must NOT remove any item that is used in the park, as it will not play if you do. Parkdat marks these objects with an X in the In Park? column.
Park Dat can be hard to find, but I believe it is available at Rct Space now that Rct Town is closed.

As for your second question, the 8 cars trainer WON'T actually change the appearance of the coaster, just as the ten foot stalls won't change the appearance of the stalls. What it does is change some of the inner workings inside the game to affect the way the coaster runs, mainly it's ratings.
As for the line issue, I generally block the entrance with a no entry sign and allow the queue to empty. Once the last riders are off the coaster, close it, make any changes, test it then open it again and remove the no entry sign. This will not affect any of the guests, their desire to rid your coaster or your park rating.

Have fun!
Duke