Hard Rock Park - Now Open!

[-Drop Zone-]

Discuss Hard Rock Park here!

Looks like the park is coming along very fast, can't wait to go next year! :)

[p0tat0]

I've been anticipating this park since it started. I really hope I get to make a trip down there.

[vekoma9]

Midnight Rider seems to be going along pretty fast. I hope they theme it to the max. I would love to have a well themed mine train ride.

[-Drop Zone-]

^ From the model it looks like the station will be, but the ride will just be over grass, but thats just a model..

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/3608/dscf1025fi9.jpg

[Mike T]

That ride is a clone of Calamity Mine at Walibi Belgium, just without all the awesome mining thematic elements. Its made by vekoma, but I hear these actually aren't that bad.
http://www.coastergrotto.co.uk/pictures/photos/SFBCalamity01.jpg

Gradaland is also getting a similar installation for 2008

http://www.gardalandever.com/gallerynews/270/progetto_coaster2008.jpg

I guess this is just another way for parks to save some money, by using a stock ride made by Vekoma. I guess there's still a good ROI on it though... lol.

[Jake]

Wow, that theming is absolutely fantastic! I can only hope that Hard Rock Park does some extensive theming for their version as well.

[Voyage100]

Yes, I think so. Themes may make the coaster ride more enjoyable, as the guests can get a feel of being almost hit the rocks, or stones if the ride has a wild-west themed mountain. Head choppers and fun effects will be added then. I can't wait to see what Hard Rock Park would be like from now on, and I hope they will get many well-themed coasters.

[Jeff]

Ha! This will be interesting, I really think they should put more Legends though like Jimmy Hendrix, Doors, and stuff like that. Not the Beatles though because that would jsut kill it. XD But anyways this is a good theme, look forard to seeing more on this coaster. ;)

[3xinvert]

Shweet...park looks like it's coming along really nice. I'm happy that LedZep is going into that park-it deserves it. I'm going to drag my friend down there when it opens-he's like the BIGGEST LedZep/ classic rock fan ever.

[Steve K]

Led is looking amazing in these latest pics. As some people are saying, this may just be the new Incredible Hulk of the south east.

http://www.hardrockpark.com/e-news/newphotopages/zeppelin/pages/images/DSCF0062.jpg
*Image Courtesy of Hard Rock Park

[Comet]

^Wow. Beautiful.
They pulled that color scheme off very well.

As for the ride...it'll be good, for sure the highlight of the park, I don't see it being as good as the Hulk though.

[Michael]

^^Wow, incredible shot there.

This is looking WAY better than I thought, I hope I can visit this park sometime :cool:

[Dan]

That color scheme is *so* beautiful! It's looking great right now, hopefully I'll get to visit it in the next few years.

[Tom]

I am hitting at least 2 new parks next year, this and WoF. I am pretty sure Led will dominate any ride at WoF. I started to drool when I saw that picture, B&M beauty.

[GoliathOwnz]

OMG! It looks so great. I freaking love the straight drop on it. Like the setting by the lake. Turned out way better then I thought too....

[Dan]

Here's another angle. So beautiful *tear*

http://www.hardrockpark.com/e-news/newphotopages/zeppelin/pages/images/DSCF0056.jpg

Edit: To the post below, the crazy turn is right after the loop.

[GoliathOwnz]

:eek: Looks awesome!!! Actully my only problem with it is the second loop. Should've had some crazy turn there. It would make the ride more interesting.

[3xinvert]

Here's another angle. So beautiful *tear*

http://www.hardrockpark.com/e-news/newphotopages/zeppelin/pages/images/DSCF0056.jpg

Edit: To the post below, the crazy turn is right after the loop.

Oh. My. God. I am SO getting MB plane tickets first chance I get! This park is going to be AWESOME!!!

BTW, IntaminMike, you rock. SKILLET!!! (sorry, getting back on-topic now.)

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

The "crazy turn" [helix] is very akin to the slanted helix wrapping Hulks launch.

Zeppelin http://www.discovermyrtlebeach.com/photos/myrtlebeach-hardrockthemepark586.cfm

Hulk http://rcdb.com/ig557.htm?picture=18

[3xinvert]

Is Midnight Rider designed by B&M? I think I saw it somewhere else, too...

[Comet]

^No. Vekoma.
And Ryan, you are right about that, they're pretty much identical to each other. I've never seen that part of the Hulk, and don't even remember it from riding it...but yeah, the rides are seeming more and more identical.

[Mike T]

Led Zeppelin really doesn't look all that appealing to me. Sure its aesthetically pleasing, but beyond that its a standard Bolliger and Mabillard coaster thats been hacked up by trims. I'm very excited for this park as an entire unit, but most of the attractions don't make me say "wow" like some of you are doing...

[3xinvert]

In your opinion, what could they POSSIBLY get for you to be blown away by it?

[Mike T]

I really enjoy the themes that they are working with here, I just don't believe that they ran with it as well as they could have. I predict this park to look almost like a Six Flags park would, just with distinct themed areas. Had I designed the park, some of the things that you would of saw from me would of been:

- A similar version to Superman: The Escape at Warner Bros Movie World Australia. The accelerator coaster down under really looks like a nice little ride, but the cool thing about it is its pre-show elements. Could you imagine a similar ride to Rock N Roller Coaster, only this time, being shot straight into a top hat element? The ride's layout is very interactive with the surrounding environment, and I think the design team could of learned from what they did down in Orlando with Hulk, by grabbing the attention of passer byers as the attraction operates.

-Reggae Falls or whatever it is called would of been a River Rapids ride, and not an interactive play area. The fact that they have a wet play area in a dry park confuses me. This is kind of like what Six Flags over Georgia did with Skull Island. When I went, I was just a little bit amused how they just plopped a water play area in the middle of a theme park, as if people are expected to bring their swim attire to ride the rides...

-Led Zeppelin would of been a bit smaller, because I don't think it should be the showcase attraction of the park. That title should of came somewhere down the line in the future to a larger roller coaster. The fact that they capped out on their 160 foot height token already doesn't look good from a marketing standpoint in my eyes. As much as everybody likes to stray away from the highest and fastest claims, human nature tends to be more attracted to attractions that give off a challenge to guests. Perhaps down the road they will get innovative with their designs, but I would of suggested a smaller size for Led Zeppelin, so that they could market their next ride as being "this much bigger and badder" than Zeppelin is.

-I think some sort of Icon should of been built with the park, and in that icon an attraction should of been incorperated. I know that there is going to be a statue of the world famous Hard Rock guitar, but why not take that to the next level and make it an S&S combo tower. Call it Decibel or something and have it to where you launch up to "maximum loudness" or whatever. Its just a concept but I do think they are lacking an essential feature to the park.

-Their selection of flats at the moment is fantastic. I've looked them over and even made a few comments to Ryan Sickles about them. The thematic elements on those flats amaze me, but from park models, they are just kind of sitting there out in the open as a flat ride would at Cedar Point. I wish they could of incorporated some shops and some rides around the flats much like parks such as IOA have done. It really helps tie things together and with the amount of theme thats being put into these attractions, its a shame to see them "moduled" like they have been.

-Although some of the attractions make sense, others do not, although I am very interested to see how these things are going to be pulled off. For example, the Sally dark ride involving the bus trip through London. Its a great concept, but I don't exactly get what the purpose of the ride is. Perhaps some sort of Time machine concept might of worked a bit better, taking riders on a blast through the past generations of music? Its just another idea, but it does sound more exciting than just any old dark ride. And with Sally behind the ride system and thematics, I'm not so sure on how "realistic" everything will look. I bet they could pull off the psychedelic concept, after seeing their work in Holiday World's dark ride, but realistically speaking it makes me raise my eyebrow.

Those are just some of the reasons why Hard Rock Park is a very questionable concept to me. I'm sure it will turn out looking fantastic and I hope I am wrong, but I really was anticipating a feel geared towards the older, more mature crowd... something along the lines of the Universal Parks, with the realistic looking facades and the awesome attractions, all while staying very contemporary in design standards...

Keep in mind, I'm not complaining in anyway. Its just my prerogative on the park, but I am looking forward to its opening date... May 26th 2008...

[Comet]

^Some of the things you mentioned actually excite me about the park.
I have always wanted to see a Six Flags-esque park run at the level Disney runs their parks. Before this, Islands of Adventure was the closest thing to that, and this is just one step closer to that concept.

I also believe that the parks expansions in the next five years will make or break this park's odds of being on par with Disny and Universal (not that it has to be, due to it's location, just for comparison purposes). Because unlike Islands of Adventure, this park does not have enough attractions to just sit still for the next 10 years.

[The Storm Runner]

^And unlike IOA, Hard Rock Park is being built on investments from investors, whereas IOA was built on loans. :) So HRP can expand for the upcoming seasons with all other parks. :)

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

^^^I didn't think there was a date set other than May?


^And unlike IOA, Hard Rock Park is being built on investments from investors, whereas IOA was built on loans. :) So HRP can expand for the upcoming seasons with all other parks. :)
Smartest post in the whole thread right here.

Rather than starting in the red, this park starts in the green...and instead of waiting seven years for capital expansion to come like IOA did, you'll be seeing things much more quickly.

[3xinvert]

Which is a good thing...right?:D

[Comet]

The Led Zeppelin trains have been semi-revealed...

http://www.johnnyupsidedown.com/new08/hr20a.jpg

And it looks like they went the extra distance to make the trains look like zeppelins.

[Arez]

Eh, does anyone else think those look tacky?..Not the 'amazing' theming I was expecting.

-Alex

[Tom]

I actually thinks it looks pretty cool.

[Dan]

Looks like a pretty accurate job to me. That's almost exactly what the front of an old zeppelin looked like.

[Voyage100]

That's an awesome train with some Led Zepperin plane themed stuffs. Hope everyone would find it really good, and would love to get it on.

[Michael]

Eh, does anyone else think those look tacky?..Not the 'amazing' theming I was expecting.

-Alex

Your not alone alex ;)

I think they could do so much with these, maybe it's just the angle that makes them look like that... : /

[3xinvert]

Meh...maybe a little...it may be the appearance of the plastic wrap over it, though.

[Comet]

Another thing to point out is that the on-ride audio system will not change the looks of the train in a substantial way, like they did for Hollywood Dream.

[jolash]

Eh, does anyone else think those look tacky?..Not the 'amazing' theming I was expecting.

-Alex


What were you expecting? It's supposed to look like a Zeppelin flying through the sky (hence the white track).

[Tom]

They couldn't have made it stick out too far, as it would interfere with the track, and all the forces. I had never put two and two together with the white track. Wow, I am slow.

[GoliathOwnz]

I don't see how you guys can even judge the trains much. The picture does not show much. From what I see it just looks like anyother B&M sit-down, besides for the nose of the train..

[antcat]

I'm not going to lie, I think the front of the trains look awesome. It looks just like what the front of Zeppelins look like as Dan said already. My only thing is that I think they are theming the ride with too much zeppelin. I mean, the trains are zeppelins, the station is a giant zeppelin, and who knows what else is going to be a zeppelin. Their name may have been "Led Zeppelin", but as a fan, I know that throughout their 12 years of existence they weren't really associated with actual zeppelins aside from their name and the picture of the Hindenburg on Led Zeppelin I & II. After the first few years they really moved away from associating their music with zeppelins. I don't know, I just feel the ride should be more about the band and the music they created throughout the 12 years, not zeppelins. Who knows, maybe the ride will be and I'm totally wrong, I'm just basing this on what I've seen so far.

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

^They still have queue theming and a preshow to give that all-around feel too. I think the blimp is just so people see it and say "oh, Zeppelin" and make the common association. But I do agree to a point, if that is majority of the focus, that's not the real Led Zeppelin.

[antcat]

^Yeah, you make a great point, not everybody at the park is going to be an avid Zeppelin fan so they have to make a connection somehow. It's going to interesting to see how they theme the rest of the ride too.

[thatdancingbear]

They look so much nicer than Hollywood Dream, IMO...

[jolash]

I'm not going to lie, I think the front of the trains look awesome. It looks just like what the front of Zeppelins look like as Dan said already. My only thing is that I think they are theming the ride with too much zeppelin. I mean, the trains are zeppelins, the station is a giant zeppelin, and who knows what else is going to be a zeppelin. Their name may have been "Led Zeppelin", but as a fan, I know that throughout their 12 years of existence they weren't really associated with actual zeppelins aside from their name and the picture of the Hindenburg on Led Zeppelin I. After the first few years they really moved away from associating their music with zeppelins. I don't know, I just feel the ride should be more about the band and the music they created throughout the 12 years, not zeppelins. Who knows, maybe the ride will be and I'm totally wrong, I'm just basing this on what I've seen so far.

Do realize, this ride was designed with major input from the band, so the "excessive Zeppelins" you speak of was either their idea, or they agreed to it.

[Dan]

Also, keep in mind that it's hard to convey the music of a band...it's not like they would have the station be a huge [insert band member here] recreation...the zeppelin happens to work well for the theme. As far as conveying more of the band idea, they will of course be playing Zeppelin music all over the queue and ride, so that takes care of the music part.

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

http://www.discovermyrtlebeach.com/podcast.cfm

Listen to Podcast #10 and #11. They've got an interview the VP of Marketing-I'm really impressed with all the little details they are thinking about for this park. It's not going to be something slapped together, it's going to have a nice foundation and a unique, more mature feel.

[Arez]

"Wack a Boy Band" Haha, Classic. :D..I really need to get out to Myrtle Beach this year, the park is turning out so much better than I anticipated.

-Alex

[Tom]

I am currently pushing my dad to go with me on a trip to Carrowinds, SFOG, and HRP. The signs are good as of right now. I would do all of them alone, but not being able to rent a car is a bad deal. Little details make good parks great parks.

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

The new website went live today about 4pm: http://www.hardrockpark.com/

It's got a park map, hours, and things explained a little more detailed. Check it out!


EDIT: Pretty cool... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCo-j_ggC2U There's going to be a bunch of little things like this around the park: bathroom mirrors that have slow animation to look like you're wasted, etc.

[jolash]

I love that the link for employment is "Kickass Jobs". :p

[Michael]

^lol, this site is awesome :D

^^ love those mirrors too :cool: he he...

[SnooSnoo]

Wow.. the site is amazing.. I'm liking it.

I really can't wait to visit there next year. I hope it lives up to the hype.

[Maxamillious]

I love that the link for employment is "Kickass Jobs". :pYeah, I’m sure that’ll be changed soon. The park will start losing brownie points with families. :rolleyes:

[jolash]

A little better pictures of the trains have been posted here:

http://www.discovermyrtlebeach.com/hardrockpark/ledzeppelintheride.cfm

[Arez]

Ah, those look much better with the plastic wrap off. By the looks of the photos, it appears they are about to start testing.

-Alex

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

From what I heard on testing, Consign was finishing up work and they were awaiting for the station to be completed.

[Arez]

Unfortunately, a trim has been spotted on Led Zeppelin: The Ride. It's located on the run into the zero-g:

http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/files/ledzep01_209_1__756.jpg
Photo Credit: kraken613 (TPR)

Hopefully it wont effect the ride too much.

-Alex

[RollermanDan]

Trims aren't always used...a lot of times they are there as a "just in case."

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

The trim brake was mentioned a while ago on the old forums. Atleast it's after the cobra roll unlike Parque Warner's S:ROS.

EDIT: Sources say that Zeppelin should've went for its first test run yesterday, but there aren't any clips of it running on the webcam.

[theRock-steel]

They seem to have an unusual way to build coasters (Maximum RPM and Slippery When Wet) and an unusual theme for the park. I'll be stopping by there on my way to Virginia in 2009.

[Brandon]

They seem to have an unusual way to build coasters (Maximum RPM and Slippery When Wet) and an unusual theme for the park. I'll be stopping by there on my way to Virginia in 2009.
How is the theme unusual? Rock 'n' Roll is something everyone can relate to in this day in age, and is a subject many companies have made a profit on. A example is Hard Rock themselfs.

The Hard Rock Cafe chain is very profitable restraunt chain and there are hundreds of them around the world.
And then the same company has the Hard Rock Hotel chain, also very profitable and very popular.

And of course, there are two very well known roller coasters themed to rock 'n' roll. The Rock 'n' RollerCoaster Staring/Avec Aerosmith clones at Disney's Hollywood Studios at the Walt Disney World Resort and the Walt Disney Studios at the Disneyland Resort Paris.

So, if those examples arent unusual, and as I pointed out very well known, profitable and popular, why would a theme park themed to rock 'n' roll be unusual?

[Dan]

It's unusual because it's never been seen as a theme for an entire park. It's not a usual theme, therefore, it's unusual. We've seen it on the Rock 'n' RC's...that's a few rides.

[Jake]

He may have been talking about the specific themes, as opposed to the general "Rock 'n' Roll" theme.

To be honest a name like "Slippery When Wet" seems better suited as a warning label on a sign you'd find in the bathroom. I'm sure that has some kind of significance in the Rock 'n' Roll world, but I'm failing to see how that makes a good name for any attraction.

[sfgam2006]

I think they need to have some rides that appeal to children as I don't think rock n roll is honestly the children's music (That's why they made the dreaded High School Musical). Anyways, this is a combo of my two favorite things (Rock n Roll Music and Roller Coasters) so I really hope to visit this park very soon.

I hope that it is a success although I really think it will be and will rival Carowinds as the best park in the Carolinas.

- Zach

[Arez]

To be honest a name like "Slippery When Wet" seems better suited as a warning label on a sign you'd find in the bathroom. I'm sure that has some kind of significance in the Rock 'n' Roll world, but I'm failing to see how that makes a good name for any attraction.

"Slippery When Wet" is the title of Bon Jovi's third album, so there's the connection. ;)
I also found it interesting that Premier Rides is manufacturing Slippery When Wet. It should be interesting to see how it turns out.

-Alex

[Jake]

"Slippery When Wet" is the title of Bon Jovi's third album, so there's the connection. ;)

Ah, thank you, I suppose I could have searched that myself, but I honestly didn't care enough.

I still stand by the fact that it isn't a very good name for a roller coaster.

"Dude lets go ride Led Zeppelin!" "Nah how about this Slippery When Wet ride?" "What the heck? Is that a bathroom or something" "Heck if I know!"

[theRock-steel]

They are selling it as the first entire park with a rock'n roll theme. That's why it's unusual. That's all.

[Youhow2]

I think they need to have some rides that appeal to children as I don't think rock n roll is honestly the children's music (That's why they made the dreaded High School Musical). Anyways, this is a combo of my two favorite things (Rock n Roll Music and Roller Coasters) so I really hope to visit this park very soon.

I hope that it is a success although I really think it will be and will rival Carowinds as the best park in the Carolinas.

- Zach


children? Are you talking about the same "rockers" I know? The dudes who listen to like sipknot, and linkin park etc. arent very young...And besides parents are going to drag the kids to the park because it's the music they grew up with...

[Jake]

^ Those same "rockers" who listen to Linkin Park, and all them generally aren't interested in the old stuff. While there are exceptions to this, most people under the age of eighteen don't care about bands like Led Zepplin anymore. Now before you "rockers" get all bent out of shape, I said there are exceptions... just not many.

[Tom]

^Jake, I completely disagree with that point you just made 100%. Now there are a good amount of people who only like Korn, Slipknot, Avenged Sevenfold style music and not the classic, but there is MANY more who like both. Almost everyone I know enjoys Led Zepplin, Van Halen, etc. and also listens to Linkin Park. They are the founding fathers of rock n' roll for our generation. Most bands were influenced by those older bands and when kids are younger what do they listen to? Their parents music so in many peoples cases they grew up listening to Led and Van Halen and still enjoy it today, I know I do as well as some of my best friends and just acquaintances.

[Jake]

^ And I think your statement is completely useless for the age group that I'm referring to. Ask MOST 12-13 year olds who they listen to most, and I can almost guarantee you that it wont be one of the "classic" bands.

Here is a google trends search I did showing the "popularity" of Led Zepplin and Linkin Park. I believe it speaks for itself. http://www.google.com/trends?q=Led+Zepplin%2C+Linkin+Park&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

I'd like to add while your statement may be true for people around the ages of seventeen and up. Kids around twelve and thirteen your statement is completely invalid.

[jolash]

^12-13 year olds have not yet been exposed to all the kinds of music in the world. They listen to mainly the stuff on the radio, which, now-a-days, is mostly garbage.


Plus, if you has any sense of good music tastes, you would realize that the sounds of bands throughout the 60's, 70's, and even some of the 80's, revolutionized the music world, and are the reason you have the music you have now. Some of these revolutionary bands include Led Zeppelin, Van Halen (Eddie Van Halen mastered the hammer-on, a popular guitar technique found in many guitar solos), The Beatles, Pantera, and even The Beach Boys. Yes, believe it or not, The Beach Boys featured the most outstanding and groundbreaking guitar playing back in their day.

[Jake]

I'm not saying that these bands weren't the founding fathers of music we have today. My original point was that this is not exactly a "family friendly" theme. Not to say that its a "bad" theme by any means of the imagination. I'm just saying that little Tommy wont enjoy it as much as his dad will, that's all. And as most of us know, most parks are successful because the kids drag the parents there - not the other way around.

[jolash]

It's also not the fact that these particular bands are featured in the park that kids won't be appealed to. The simple fact that it's "rock-n-roll" is appealing. Doesn't every little kid want to be a rock star?

[Michael]

^ Those same "rockers" who listen to Linkin Park, and all them generally aren't interested in the old stuff.

I'm sorry if this is a bit off topic, but we're currently discussing it.

And I'm sorry, but I have to agree with Jake. Although many people do in fact respect the "oldies", the fact is that many if not most kids under age 18 are into modern music. The evidence? Most radio stations play modern music. I know I would appreciate all of the historic aspects behind the park, but I'm not really "into" old music. Sorry.

Also, since many families will be visiting, so will many little kids. And to be honest, I don't know any little kids who listen to Led Zepplin. Just an observation...

[jolash]

Again, listen to what I just said. Stop focusing on the specific bands in the park. All little kids would like to be a rock-n-roll star. That's what this park is, the rock-star's fun park, not Led Zeppelin's park.

Hard Rock commemorates the history of rock-n-roll, an American-pastime, and presents it in a fun way (restaurants, hotels, and now roller coasters). Why are we focusing on little kids anyways? They really have nothing to do with anything. They'll view the park just as they would the restaurants and hotels; it's just another restaurant, and it's just another hotel.

And yes, the parks are in fact for the older generations. That's why most parks have coaster counts in the double digits, and much fewer play areas. If the parks were aiming for the little ones, we'd have parks full of the colored ball play-pens and little carousels, and just one big thriller for the big kids.

[Jake]

Doesn't every little kid want to be a rock star?

Wrong kind of rock star. Little kids want to be Drake Bell, and Hannah Montana (gag me). They don't want to be whoever the lead singer of Led Zepplin was. So when the kids show up expecting to see a Hannah Montana roller coaster, and find that its themed to some band they have never heard of, I think they are going to be disappointed.

I stick to my point - little kids may be enthralled about being a "Rock Star" (that trend is dying or dead I might add) - but not the kind of "Rock Star" that Hard Rock promotes.


And yes, the parks are in fact for the older generations. That's why most parks have coaster counts in the double digits, and much fewer play areas. If the parks were aiming for the little ones, we'd have parks full of the colored ball play-pens and little carousels, and just one big thriller for the big kids.

And that's why none of those parks are as successful as the Disney parks, the ones that try to appeal to the kids. Because believe it or not, kids play a huge part on where the family goes for vacation. And between Walt Disney World, or Hard Rock Park - where do you think little Tommy and Tammy are going to want to go? To see Mickey Mouse - or some "Rock Star" who died from drug overdose.

I'd like to note that I like the idea of this park, and think it will be a success - I'm just saying it wont appeal to the kids.

[jolash]

Wrong kind of rock star. Little kids want to be Drake Bell, and Hannah Montana (gag me). They don't want to be whoever the lead singer of Led Zepplin was. So when the kids show up expecting to see a Hannah Montana roller coaster, and find that its themed to some band they have never heard of, I think they are going to be disappointed.

I stick to my point - little kids may be enthralled about being a "Rock Star" (that trend is dying or dead I might add) - but not the kind of "Rock Star" that Hard Rock promotes.

I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. I never said anything about a Hannah Montana coaster. Young children often have dreams of being a rock star, and that's that. Nothing in particular, no certain person or band specifically. Again, you're focusing on specific bands. Don't look at it as the park of Led Zeppelin and the hair bands of the 80's, look at it in a more general view; the Rock Star's theme park.



And that's why none of those parks are as successful as the Disney parks, the ones that try to appeal to the kids. Because believe it or not, kids play a huge part on where the family goes for vacation. And between Walt Disney World, or Hard Rock Park - where do you think little Tommy and Tammy are going to want to go? To see Mickey Mouse - or some "Rock Star" who died from drug overdose.

I'd like to note that I like the idea of this park, and think it will be a success - I'm just saying it wont appeal to the kids.Busch Gardens isn't successful then? They're probably just as successful on a proportional scale, being that they're not only a smaller chain, but none of their parks are part of a resort.

And again, your view on this park is absurd, and nearly offensive to those who respect the rock n roll genre. Saying kids getting to choose between Mickey and "some rock star who died from drug overdose" is an appalling statement. You truly think that is the image that Hard Rock gives off?

[sirloin]

Uh oh...somebody's badmouthing the founding fathers of rock and roll, who rocked harder than anybody else does today. Aerosmith. The Allman Brothers. Bad Company. The Beatles. Bon Jovi. Eric Clapton. Deep Purple. Genesis. Sammy Hagar. Led Zeppelin. The Rolling Stones. Rush. Van Halen. U2. The Who. Those are rock stars, and there are many more besides them. And don't give me any "U2 and Bon Jovi are modern, not classic." They were around long before any of us were born.

Seriously, something tells me a ride called Move Along wouldn't make it any more popular than calling it Midnight Rider. Not only that, but I don't think this park is so family-heavy as some people would like to think it is. This park is meant to get a reaction from the more mature crowd who actually know who the rock bands are and who grew up with some of the most awesome rock and roll ever. I bet alot of you don't even know what the name Midnight Rider comes from, nor do you know why they called that one area in the park "Born in the USA."

And the esteemed Sir Lawrence is correct. The prospect of getting to be a rock star for a day will mean just the same if they get to pretend they're Roger Daltrey, Jimmy Page, Mick Jagger, or somebody from one of today's popular bands, like that guy from that punk rock band who sings that song that the young teenagers like (you can see just how much I care for today's music, though a few folks, i.e. Snow Patrol and maybe a couple others, are actually pretty good).

I'll even one up you and say that by theming the park to mostly classical rock, people will feel even more like a rock star. Your stereotypical rock star with the really long hair, outrageous stage clothes, and wicked guitar solo pretty much died out in the mid 90's. These classic rock folks are the rock stars kids dream about being. And heck, rock today is extremely generic it seems. You don't have the zillion styles you did back with classic rock, and you don't have nearly as many great bands to choose from. There just aren't as many legends these days. Back in the 60's-80's, and even into the 90's until pop (NOT pop rock, because the Backstreet Boys are most certainly not rock) took over, we lived in a rock-oriented society. Then, as I said, came pop, and now we're on to rap and hip-hop. What's left of rock is a shadow of what used to be, and I don't really see anything evolutionary in rock today save that it is of a somewhat softer, milder style than it used to be (and some modern rock stars do do it well, to be fair. Just not many).

Forgive my massive rant, but if someone's gonna badmouth the founding fathers (and mothers in some cases) of rock and roll, they are gonna face my wrath.

I do like Sir Lawrence's point about it just being a rock star's park, but you'll probably have alot of people not making some of the distinctions. I do think the name recognition won't hold the same water with the younger set than it will with the mature set (or those youngins who want to know what rock is really about ;)). In the end, though, I do think they weren't aiming for name recognition with the younger set. So while you young folks continue to throw hissy fits that the All-American Rejects and other bands who whine about why life sucks don't make an appearance, I'll be having a Whole Lotta Love for an awesome B&M looper.

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

EDIT: Sources say that Zeppelin should've went for its first test run yesterday, but there aren't any clips of it running on the webcam.
First test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxVRHlPJKH4

[Dan]

Oh, it looks so awesome, so flowing. I can't wait to ride this thing one day.

[Tom]

Something else that clearly proves who this park is directed at, is its location. Mrtyle Beach, South Carolina. Golf, which is a middle aged to older male sport, for the most part with some exceptions. Rock n' Roll families will go, parents who show there kids the good music, not that boy band rock or lets shoot some people rap music, but the good music. I was fortunate to be shown the light of classic rock, and I still hold it close but I enjoy the hardcore scene more which is based off of some of the great classic bands of the past.

If this park was designated for families, it would not be in Mrytle Beach, but a more "family friendly" destination, such as Florida. And to agree with Sir Lawrence, kids do not discover there TRUE taste in music until basically they start driving or around that age. You cant really pick what you listen to if your parents are driving, thats how it was for me at least, as well as my friends. And I am pretty sure no kid would expect a "Hannah Montana" ride at a place called Hard Rock Park. They know its not Disney, and they know Disney owns Hannah Montana, give the kids a little credit.

This may be the best idea for a theme park I think, there is tons of money going into the music industry yearly which is unimaginable.

Edit: Just saw video, beautiful!

[Jake]

Video looks great.

If you guys actually read my posts, instead of getting pissed off about my not caring for the "found fathers of rock 'n' roll." You would know that I was only saying that this park is not going to appeal to the whole family. Maybe that's not what they're shooting for, fine. But other parks that have aimed for the older crowd haven't done as well as the parks that appeal to the kids.

Example, DisneyWorld is more successful than Universal Orlando. Case, and point.

[jolash]

Disney World is not more successful just because they appeal to younger children. Disney is more successful because they have extremely marketable characters, timeless characters at that. These characters have been around since the 20's or 30's, having a long history, appealing to even the older generations.

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

Example, DisneyWorld is more successful than Universal Orlando. Case, and point.
I'd like to point out that Universal Orlando is only 17 years old...and it's already the third largest resort in America (only behind WDWR & DLR).

It's not as "older crowd" as you think. Pretty much every ride in both parks are designed for children of all ages except the four coasters and S&S towers, which target 13 years and up. Almost every ride at the Studios, except Mummy, encourages children to get on.

[Matt]

It takes those loops really fast. Cobra Roll and the Zero G-roll looks like it takes it at perfect speeds, but it really tears it up through the loop.

[Michael]

Wow, the drop looks excellent, and everything is so perfect! :D The Zero G roll made me cry, lol.

I really really need it out there sometime! :cool:

[supremescreamer]

Looks like your average B&M to me.....nothing jaw dropping. I imagine the theming will be above average though.

The people in the video are funny regarding how impressed they are with the elements compared enthusiasts, who have come to know these B&M's as well as our daily morning routine.

It's still a solid coaster to have in any parks inaugural season though.

[apsterling]

Looks good. Very smooth and flowing. Long trains though, back'll be snappy.

[Michael]

The people in the video are funny regarding how impressed they are with the elements compared enthusiasts, who have come to know these B&M's as well as our daily morning routine.

Regarding that the last page or so is filled with enthusiast's reactions, they're about the same ;). It's very impressive either way.

[supremescreamer]

I don't know... I just don't see anything earth shattering about it. It looks like an average B&M found in several other parks. The only thing that will set it apart is its theming.

[Maxamillious]

You would know that I was only saying that this park is not going to appeal to the whole family.Honestly, there’s profanity on the park’s website. If they were ever striving to be family oriented I’m pretty much convinced they've already failed.

[Arez]

You guys are missing the point. The name 'Hard Rock' is already enough to appeal to families. Families go to Hard Rock Cafe's all the time, why would this be any different?

I actually think that attendance will go through the roof for the first couple seasons.

-Alex

[Youhow2]

Here is a google trends search I did showing the "popularity" of Led Zepplin and Linkin Park. I believe it speaks for itself. http://www.google.com/trends?q=Led+Zepplin%2C+Linkin+Park&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0





I love how linkin park is declining again lower than they ever have before...Serves them right for that sell-out record...


But anyway,I think my point is that everyone listens to music, Rock 'n roll is the most listened to music on earth(last time I checked), and even if there will be old rock type themeing in the park, I can only imagine there being a modren section in the park that may draw younger people to it... Dont you think when they were planning the park they had the same arguements we had now? There gonna do something to attract the teem crowd they want, and do something to keep it family friendly too... Have faith in them, they will do well...lol

[crZythrill3r]

Ahh I can't wait until I ride this baby.

Hard Rock is looking better everyday.

[Ben Fitzgerald]

*Takes a deep breath in*

First off, this park has not, is not, and will not aim for families. I guarantee that less than 10% of kids under the age of 14 in america listen to anything even near the realm of "Hard Rock". Believe me, I listen to bands like Slayer, Cannibal Corpse, Behemoth, Dimmu Borgir...just death metal in general. It's hard pressed to find someone who listens to something like Pantera, or even older stuff like Aerosmith, Rush or U2. I know the 20-25 people that do in a high school with 3200 people. And I live in a decent part of town, so there's no gangster crap.

Anyway, the point im trying to make is that this park will have ZERO appeal to families. Will there still be some, if many in the park at any given time? Yes. And that is because the older people in that family will be the ones pressing to go in the first place. Jake hit the nail on the head with his statement saying "Little kids want to be Drake Bell, and Hannah Montana." The image of the kind of rock star of the past has vanished for today's kids. I've played guitar and keyboards literally since I was 8 years old, so I grew up as the one kid that listens to heavy and classic rock. I know what I'm talking about. This park will in NO WAY appeal to kids, therefore families with younger children.

Now that my music rant is out of the way, I will comment on the amusement side of the park. lol.

LZ:TR is looks to be a decently solid B&M. There really doesn't seem to be anything too special about it besides the onride music deal. I think that's really gonna make or break the opinions of enthusiasts. The GP will find it to be a big hit. I have a feeling that the rest of the park will come along nicely, and that despite the fact that it has no curb appeal to families, it won't have to worry about not attracting people. I can't wait to fly out there in the near future to see for myself!:D

[Dan]

First off, this park has not, is not, and will not aim for families. I guarantee that less than 10% of kids under the age of 14 in america listen to anything even near the realm of "Hard Rock". Believe me, I listen to bands like Slayer, Cannibal Corpse, Behemoth, Dimmu Borgir...just death metal in general. It's hard pressed to find someone who listens to something like Pantera, or even older stuff like Aerosmith, Rush or U2. I know the 20-25 people that do in a high school with 3200 people. And I live in a decent part of town, so there's no gangster crap.That may be, and your point is very strong. However, I know many people who don't listen to rock, but still have been to Hard Rock Cafe once or more times before. I'm guessing many people on this board have been there before, even those of you who don't listen to rock. And I'm also guessing you know people who have been to HRC as well. (obviously your location affects if you've been there.)

[disneylhand]

I think you guys are missing the point. Theme parks, no matter what the theme, will attract families. Some of you are alluding to a point that says, since the theme is not targeted directly at children, children will not be a big part of the park's overall attendance.
Look at the lineup of attractions at this park. Either your guys' assumptions are right, or the professionals that designed Hard Rock Park are making a huge mistake in the building of so many family rides.

-disneylhand

[The Storm Runner]

Maximum RPM's circuit apparently is done, along with its ferris wheel lift. It sure does look interesting. :) Taken from the webcam:

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4816/maxrpmox1.jpg

Hopefully it'll be more than just a big mess of steel, such as, the MCBR stairs? :)

[p0tat0]

I still go to Disneyland even though I don't like the disney crap.

[The Storm Runner]

^???

More pics here: http://www.discovermyrtlebeach.com/hardrockpark/maximumrpm.cfm

I think it looks neat. It'll be interesting how this turns out. I'm guessing like 1-car trains? Hopefully it moves pretty quickly, cause I doubt they'd have one car at the top, one on the side (1/2 way up), and one on the ground, cause that would be very unbalanced. Let's hope it's a fast-moving wheel. :)

[Comet]

^I'm sure they'd be able to counter balance it somehow.
It would seem pointless to have the four slots if only two were gonna be used.

And yeah, I think it's safe to say the cars will most likely be like the "Mini Coaster" cars in RCT2.

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

Hopefully it moves pretty quickly, cause I doubt they'd have one car at the top, one on the side (1/2 way up), and one on the ground, cause that would be very unbalanced. Let's hope it's a fast-moving wheel. :)
That's supportively how it will be operating: http://www.rollercoasterpro.com/updates/iaapa07p1/03.shtml There won't be a counterbalance because the wheel will continue to spin one way. I imagine it's kind of similar to loading a couple people one of those empty old 25' ferris wheels. I doubt it's anything that modern motors can't handle.

I'm kind of curious, how will the car "rings" stay level as the wheel travels upward? Will there be a gear/motor system to keep it level or will it just use gravity (which I think would take a while for the track to level out, and the system to lock, to send the train off)?

[Youhow2]

I wonder what they use to keep the train from falling of the track...breaks? bumpers?

[p0tat0]

Brakes, bumpers, it won't be that hard to deal with that.


I've seen a canal that had a design like this on the discovery channel I think it was. Worked very well.

[MB-Ace]

Hey, guys! We were at a press event yesterday and they ran Led Zeppelin for us. The ride is so quite. Here's some photos and video:

http://www.discovermyrtlebeach.com/hardrockpark/ledzeppelintheride.cfm

[Top Thrill Dragster]

^Great Update!

It sounds like it has a nasty rattling problem. Hopefully it not like Scream at SFMM.



Is it me, or dose it look like it has been slowed.

[Jake]

Sweet update!

The ride does sound like it has a bit of a rattle at the bottom of all the inversions..

I'd love to see an overview of this ride now that it's completed..

[Michael]

Lol, in the offride video, that guy at the beginning is a terrible speaker :p

Loved the update! Glad to see this rolling along nicley :cool:

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

LOL, that was a cool christening. Thanks for the update!

[Jake]

http://www.screamscape.com/assets/images/db_images/db_2007_1221_HRP_LedZep_Speakers_6001.jpg
Image courtesy of ScreamScape

I thought this was cool. However, the placement of these speakers is awful. The riders feet will be all over those speakers.

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

JL Audio with seperated mids and tweets? That should sound awesome!

The only thing I don't like is the fact those white OTSR's will turn all kinds of nasty dirt colors within a few weeks.

[rcwhiz]

Will there be any speakers around the headrest or just at the riders feet?

[TogoFan]

Maybe they will play part of "Stairway to Heaven" on the way up the lift hill. I mean, it IS a Led Zeppelin roller coaster.

[p0tat0]

They already have a song selected for the ride lol, but it would be cool for the lift.

I wish they selected a more.... upbeat song you know.

[sirloin]

I'm pretty disappointed with the choice. Whole Lotta Love is not fast-paced enough for a roller coaster. Rock and Roll or Bring it on Home would've been better choices.

[sc_coaster_boi]

To me the Maximum RPM coaster is going to be the best. I seen it the other day. The coaster starts in a Ferris Wheel and conects at top to track. The ride starts from the top and you go on the ride that way.

[Michael]

What impresses me is the rate at which this is being fabricated and installed, hats off to the developers :cool:

[sc_coaster_boi]

What impresses me is the rate at which this is being fabricated and installed, hats off to the developers :cool:
Well right now 3 coasters are finished and the rest are almost done. I believe the rest of the time is going to be done on themeing. A lot of time has been spent on coasters but hardly any has been spent on themes.

[Jumpman23]

I'm pretty disappointed with the choice. Whole Lotta Love is not fast-paced enough for a roller coaster. Rock and Roll or Bring it on Home would've been better choices.

Yes but Bring it on Home is very slow for the first 1:39 seconds, Rock and Roll would be a good choice even Moby Dick would be a good choice too.

[sirloin]

Well, I was gonna say start the song right at the end of the slow part, so as you crest the first drop, you'd be at the start of the guitar awesomeness.

Man, thinking about this gives me Goosebumps. I say we start a petition to have Bring It On Home be the official song of Led Zeppelin-The Ride.

[Jumpman23]

Yes we should start one noe that I think about it ring it on Home would be a good song.

[Brandon]

Guys guys guys, c'mon now. There is no reason to be getting worked up about the soundtrack for now. Now as much as I dont nessesarly like the decision Hard Rock made for the song, theres nothing we can do about it. For all we know, Hard Rock may make a decision before opening day. For all we know, the ride could be like Rock 'n' RollerCoaster where the soundtracks are different each train and the songs alternate throughout the ride. Heck, I bet that the soundtrack hasnt even been finalized, and what we've heard in the video is the song slapped on the NoLimits POV.

All we can do is wait, and if this is the final version, lets hope that sometime down the road in LZ-TR's life, the soundtrack is changed.

[p0tat0]

^But we came here to complain about the song! Isn't that the whole point of this thread?

[sc_coaster_boi]

Guys guys guys, c'mon now. There is no reason to be getting worked up about the soundtrack for now. Now as much as I dont nessesarly like the decision Hard Rock made for the song, theres nothing we can do about it. For all we know, Hard Rock may make a decision before opening day. For all we know, the ride could be like Rock 'n' RollerCoaster where the soundtracks are different each train and the songs alternate throughout the ride. Heck, I bet that the soundtrack hasnt even been finalized, and what we've heard in the video is the song slapped on the NoLimits POV.

All we can do is wait, and if this is the final version, lets hope that sometime down the road in LZ-TR's life, the soundtrack is changed.
Actually you are wrong. Some members of Led Zeppelin chose the song. I also wished stairway would play going up lift hill. But the song is final so there is nothing you can do. And yall will love the station. It is a huge Zeppelin. They have started building it.

[-Drop Zone-]

At least the music on Led Zeppelin is better than Hollywood Dream :p

[thedeadfrog]

Don't you pick your own track to ride too on Hollywood Dream???

[Brandon]

Don't you pick your own track to ride too on Hollywood Dream???
Yes. you do. You pick from Bon Jovi's Homebound Train, Eminem's Lose Yourself, The Beatles' Get Back, Dreams Come True's Osaka lover and kobukuro's The Wing Named You.

It would of been nice if LZ:TR had this song selection system, however, since the speakers will not be in the headrests in LZ like they are in HD:TR, but rather in front of and below you, the different songs playing just wouldnt work. The different songs would get mashed up with eachother, and just ruin the whole on-board soundtrack aspect of it.

It might have been another story if B&M decided to install speakers into the headrests.

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

It would of been nice if LZ:TR had this song selection system, however, since the speakers will not be in the headrests in LZ like they are in HD:TR, but rather in front of and below you, the different songs playing just wouldnt work. The different songs would get mashed up with eachother, and just ruin the whole on-board soundtrack aspect of it.
Going to guess here, but I think the reason they ended up with this speaker setup was the park wanted the ride to be really, really loud. It could also be how heavy all the audio equipment is and B&M is very finicky about weight distribution on the train....since HD:TR doesn't necessarily have that weight issue about navigating twisty elements like LZ:TR does.

[Sam]

Here is a major photo update from Screamscape with nearly 100 photos of the new park.

http://www.screamscape.com/html/hard_rock_park.htm

[R.C.]

^Yeah that is an awesome set of pictures. I really like a lot of the stuff they have done inside this park.

I really can't wait to see how it all comes together at opening, it's just to bad I won't be getting out there to see it for a few years...

[The Storm Runner]

This is beautiful! :drool: I love that entry plaza; it kinda reminds me of KD with the southwest feel. Then there's that amazing entry gate!

With that Midnight Rider footage ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI4Djw8NBZE ), is that last spot on the train for a wheelchair? If so, that's pretty bold, in my opinion. Are there any other coasters with a wheelchair spot like this? I know the train at Hersheypark has one just like that, but...that's a train, not a roller coaster. I guess we'll see how it turns out.

It's really coming along though! :smile:

[Mike T]

Lol, that last car is nick named the wheel chair seat because its fun to watch people go "Nuh Uh!" in amazement.

Its actually used so that an employee or a chickened-out guest can safely cross the loading platform without stepping on people or getting hurt. They have these on a lot of the Vekoma Roller Skaters where loading and unloading are on separate sides.

Hope this helps you out Nick.

[The Storm Runner]

Lol, thanks Mike, I never knew that. That does make a lot of sense (unlike the wheelchair theory). I guess I never really bothered looking up Roller Skaters on RCDB (I'd much rather look up Japanese Togos :smile:). Thanks!

[Mike T]

Feb. 29th, 2008 -- Via Press Release:

After breaking ground one year ago, Hard Rock Park in Myrtle Beach, SC is about to kick open its doors and make history. The world’s first and only rock ‘n’ roll theme park announced today its Grand Opening Extravaganza on June 2, including an exclusive two-day celebration featuring concerts and a star-studded celebrity golf tournament hosted by PGA TOUR professional Peter Jacobsen.

Grand Opening Extravaganza

Hard Rock Park’s Grand Opening Extravaganza festivities will commence on Monday, June 2 with an extraordinary, grand opening ceremony at the massive iron gates to the rock ‘n’ roll oasis featuring a concert performance by the Eagles. The following day, the renowned British rock band, The Moody Blues, will commemorate the official opening of the park’s psychedelic, Moody Blues-inspired dark ride, Nights in White Satin - The Trip, followed by an exclusive live performance.

“This celebration will be one for the record books,” said Steven Goodwin, CEO of Hard Rock Park. “Our opening lineup screams that the world’s first rock ‘n’ roll theme park has arrived. Families will be transformed from Regular Joes to Rock Stars, leading others to say ‘they must’ve been to Hard Rock Park.’”

Celebrity Golf Tournament

“Peter Jacobsen Sports is proud to be partnering with Hard Rock,” said Peter Jacobsen, president and CEO of Peter Jacobsen Sports (PJS). “This combination of sports, stars and rock ‘n’ roll is sure to make PJS’ first-class golf tournament one of our best tournaments yet.”

The Celebrity Golf Tournament will be held at Grande Dunes Golf Resort on June 2. Participants will include rock ‘n’ roll legends, such as The Moody Blues, celebrities and PGA TOUR golf professionals. Among the PGA TOUR pros playing will be Jacobsen, as well as LPGA star Paula Creamer. Jacobsen will also host a “Peter Jacobsen and Friends Golf Clinic”.

"We're proud and honored to help kick off Hard Rock Park’s grand opening," said Sean Dee, Vice President and Chief Marketing Officer for Hard Rock International. "Hard Rock Park looks forward to, not only being part of the future of South Carolina tourism industry, but also to establishing itself as a national premier rock ‘n’ roll entertainment destination."

Hard Rock Park is the first new major theme park to be built in the U.S. in nearly a decade. The park is approximately 50-acres boasting more than 50 thrilling rides and attractions for rockers of all ages, including roller coasters such as Led Zeppelin - The Ride, great live shows, children’s play areas, restaurants, cafes and retail stores, a multi-purpose live music amphitheater and an ultra-modern sound system specifically developed for the project, creating a totally immersive full-day experience.

Ticket packages for the Grand Opening Extravaganza will go on sale at 11 a.m. March 17 at Hard Rock Park’s All Access Entry Plaza and online at www.hardrockpark.com (http://www.hardrockpark.com/).

About Hard Rock Park

HRP Myrtle Beach Operations, LLC, is designing, developing, and constructing; and will own and operate Hard Rock Park, an approximately 155-acre rock n’ roll theme park in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina under a long term license agreement with Hard Rock International. HRP Myrtle Beach Operations LLC is a partnership between the executive management team of Steven Goodwin, Felix Mussenden and Jon Binkowski, who designed and developed the park’s concepts and will be responsible for building and operating the park; FHTP, LLC a group of prominent local investors and community leaders and a joint venture led by real-estate developer Ziel Feldman and Amnon Bar-Tur, managing member of SafeHarbor Holding, LLC; from New York and Africa Israel Investment and Polar International Real Estate from Israel. For more information on Hard Rock Park, visit www.hardrockpark.com (http://www.hardrockpark.com/).

[RaptorOMGZ]

How does golf tie into opening a new theme park? :huh:

[Jumpman23]

^ Yeah I dont understand that either, I mean rock and golf are far apart from eachother.

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

Are there other celebrities besides the PGA/LGPA players in the golf tournament?

If there are, it's a celebrity sports tournament for spectators and publicity. Can you think of another tournament that would entice celebrities to play? Well, poker is actually fun when they time-edit it on TV. Live, it drags on too long. But I don't think some 60 year old celebrities are into putting on shoulder pads and getting slammed on a football field.

If not, then I don't know. :huh:

[Jumpman23]

Hey now, theres nothing wrong with strapping on the ol' shoulderpads, but I understand what you mean.

[Tom]

The reason why golf is tied in, is Mrytle Beach is a HUGE and let me repeat HUGE golf area. It is home to one of the toughest courses in the US. So golf ties in to the area more than anything.

[RaptorOMGZ]

Ahh, now I can see how it would, because of that and reading further down on the golf tournament section it says that the celebrities will include rock legends, so it should be an interesting park opening (:

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

The station's Zeppelin is going up and can be seen at DCM: http://www.discovermyrtlebeach.com/photos/myrtlebeach-hardrockthemepark1022.cfm

[Exceller]

That is an awesome station. I have no idea what appeals to me, but I love that station.

[p0tat0]

That is one of the best stations I've seen. Matches the ride perfectly

[Mike T]

Midnight Rider Now Eagles Life In The Fast Lane (http://hardrockparkblog.com/?p=352)

Details from a park press release this morning.

Eagles band members, Glenn Frey, Don Henley, Joe Walsh and Timothy B. Schmit, have gone back into the studio to re-record their famed smash hit, turning it into a one-of-kind version exclusively for the new ride.
Vekoma Rides Manufacturing, one of the largest roller coaster manufacturers in the world, is designing and engineering the ride together with its US alliance partner Chance-Morgan.

A two-minute-long journey - the longest coaster ride at the Park
Features a double lift with Lift heights of 39 feet and 46 feet, respectively

Each train holds 22-24 people (4 coaches per train, 6 people per coach) and features an on-board, high-fidelity digital audio system to further enhance the ride experience.

Total length of track is 2,234 feet

Maximum speed: 50 KPH with hairpin turns that pull 2 G-Forces
http://hardrockparkblog.com/?p=352

Hmm, I'm not too fond of the new name, only because the dark theme that they already gave the ride doesn't seem to match up with the new name. Guests will enter the ride through two giant hands that are pretty creepy looking, and to me that doesn't scream "Life in the fast lane" but "Midnight Rider" as previously known...

[p0tat0]

Wow, a small ride being called "Life in the fast lane." There should be a 4G requirement to be called that.

[coastermatt]

That station looks great. You know what would be really cool? If like on HRRR you could choose your own Zeppelin tracks to listen too, and maybe even have some season passholder contests where they have Ironman-type challenges on Zeppelin and winner gets Zeppelin albums (MOTHERSHIP!!!111 :P)

[Exceller]

A video of the nightime show at the park has been posted to the Hard Rock Park Blog, take a look:http://hardrockparkblog.com/ Just take note that it contains the whole show and some spoilers.

Personally, I was expecting a flat out amazing show, but I think that this may have fell a little short of what I thought it would be. Even though it wasn't what I was expecting, it should be a great way to end a day at Hard Rock Park.

[Dan]

I'm pretty disappointed...maybe I'm spoiled by Disneyland's fireworks, but that wasn't too great.

[Youhow2]

That display was awesome... You must be over spoiled by disney, any more pyro would have killed the show...

[RollermanDan]

Dan, I felt the EXACT same way as you actually...I kept thinking to myself, "ok so when's the big pyro going to go off?"

[Tom]

I thought it had great timing with the music, and it flowed very well. No need for a real big finale, the laser part was very appealing, I enjoyed it. Its not a big finale song in my opinion.

[JonJon86]

I think thats pretty effing cool.

Well I think I decided my tax refund is going to fund some of my trip to the park.

[JD71]

You got to agree that the guitar solo was pretty awesome.

Compared to Disney, it could use some work, but alone, I really liked it.

[Jake]

It didn't really do anything for me. The song choice was kinda cool, and it had some need pyrotechnics. But as a whole, it was rather disappointing.

[rollercoasterfreek]

I think I am spoiled by Disney. I didn't think the pryo stuff was that thrilling.

[tacoking]

Ah, I have no doubt I would enjoy it if I were to see it in person.

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

Seriously, why all the Disney comparisons? Why not compare it to those awesome imaginary fireworks at Six Flags, Cedar Fair, or WoD? :glare:

Hard Rock is trying to offer something over nothing-which I think everyone agrees is a good deal. Let's not get too subjective.

[coastermatt]

^Yeah, I really liked it too. Disneyland fireworks aren't anything like this. That was something totally different, and IMO it was amazing (how it went along with the music and that guitar). The only thing I didn't like was that a giant firework didn't blast outta the guitar! :P

[Dan]

Seriously, why all the Disney comparisons? Why not compare it to those awesome imaginary fireworks at Six Flags, Cedar Fair, or WoD? :glare:

Hard Rock is trying to offer something over nothing-which I think everyone agrees is a good deal. Let's not get too subjective.I'm comparing it to Disney (and so are other people) because I see the rest of this park as above CF and SF parks (though we'll have to wait for the reviews to roll in to see if I'm right). They shouldn't be offering something over nothing. They should be offering the best they can do. Crowds like to see lots of big fireworks.

And what if the park is crowded and you can't see very well? There isn't much high up in the sky to look at.

[Youhow2]

I dont think it's fair to compare it to one of the biggest amusement chains in the game though, this is so far is still the only hard rock park. This is their first try and they are doing it right, the show doesnt have to be "pyro-tacular" to be good.

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

They shouldn't be offering something over nothing. They should be offering the best they can do. Crowds like to see lots of big fireworks.
$400 million park vs. multi-billion parks...seems 'their best' to me. I find it hard to believe they went about it haphazardly. Everyone can see big skyline fireworks every New Years and Fourth of July for free, but doing something unique takes some creativity.


And what if the park is crowded and you can't see very well? There isn't much high up in the sky to look at.
IllumiNations? ...Took the same layout from the best park show.

[Jake]

$400 million park vs. multi-billion parks...seems 'their best' to me. I find it hard to believe they went about it haphazardly. Everyone can see big skyline fireworks every New Years and Fourth of July for free, but doing something unique takes some creativity.

Don't mistake lack of "wow" for creativity. This show is totally lacking the "wow" factor that fireworks shows rely on.

[Youhow2]

This show is pretty "wow" to me. not "BOOM" wow, but cool wow.

[Jake]

So I'm not allowed to have a feeling that differs from yours? You enjoyed the show, thought it was great, that's wonderful, I'm happy for you. But it didn't "wow" me, and I believe I am entitled to that opinion.

[The Storm Runner]

I for one enjoyed it. :smile: The timing is really cool at the 'Let him go!' part. And that flying thing at the end was cool.

[Curly]

Nice, a Queen song! I'm actually wearing a Queen shirt right now, lol.

Anyways, I thought the show was pretty good. I love how they incorporated the Gibson guitar into the show. For being the parks first fireworks show, it's pretty good.

[coastermatt]

So I'm not allowed to have a feeling that differs from yours? You enjoyed the show, thought it was great, that's wonderful, I'm happy for you. But it didn't "wow" me, and I believe I am entitled to that opinion.

He wasn't questioning your opinion, he was using yours to build on.

[rcwhiz]

I personally think the show was really good. The timing, the not over doing it, and offering something unique that not many other parks do made the show good. What was unique some of you may ask was that flying thing at the end, the ability to mix everything in the show to the music so well, and the mix of the water fountains and fireworks as the only park that does it is Epcot I think but I may be wrong. I haven't seen or heard any fireworks go so well to music and I don't think any of the Disney fireworks go to music so well. Although there were some slow spots and no big ending or something special to end it with was the only thing that I didn't like about the show. But for their first show at their first park it was pretty good and beats all the Six Flags/Cedar Fair park ones but Disney will be hard to beat as they have had time to invest lots of money into their shows over a good period of time to have all those huge pyrotechnics and special effects. It sort offers a happy medium between Disney and Six Flags/Cedar Fair.

[Youhow2]

So I'm not allowed to have a feeling that differs from yours? You enjoyed the show, thought it was great, that's wonderful, I'm happy for you. But it didn't "wow" me, and I believe I am entitled to that opinion.


I didnt try to change your opinion. I'm just trying to express why I thought the show was good and how it differed from other shows, using your disliking statement as an example.

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

So I'm not allowed to have a feeling that differs from yours? You enjoyed the show, thought it was great, that's wonderful, I'm happy for you. But it didn't "wow" me, and I believe I am entitled to that opinion.
Matt already stated what I was going to say.

Everyone's allowed their fair share of views, no need to put up defenses. I was just saying at some point expectation has to kick-in.

The inaugural trial run of a show from a venue theoretically in debit versus a billionaire conglomerate doing their operation for the last three decades, is a pessimistic outlook. Even more so when you look at a show that aims itself more than fireworks, then compare & analyze it to just fireworks. This is something that relies upon heavy imagery, repercussions of explosions, full-frame view, and more that a simple camera can't convery...like an on-ride video.

[Dan]

The inaugural trial run of a show from a venue theoretically in debit versus a billionaire conglomerate doing their operation for the last three decades, is a pessimistic outlook. Even more so when you look at a show that aims itself more than fireworks, then compare & analyze it to just fireworks. This is something that relies upon heavy imagery, repercussions of explosions, full-frame view, and more that a simple camera can't convery...like an on-ride video.Then again Disney's shows aren't just fireworks...they remind you of all the fun you had that day during your fantastic visit, and make you recall memories you had on various rides. Disney has it perfected.

I guess what I personally am trying to say is, the bar is set high, and I expected Hard Rock Park to get a little closer on the first jump.

[Jake]

I'd like to note that I never compared this to a Disney fireworks show. I can't help any sub conscience expectations, but I did not go into this expecting "Disney quality".

[rollercoasterfreek]

^ I don't think there can be a comparison. It is too different.

[Exceller]

From Screamscape:

2008 - Under Construction - (4/16/08) New pictures and video clips of Led Zeppelin’s first ride event can be found at Johnny Upsidedown (http://www.johnnyupsidedown.com/eventHRP.html), Hard Rock Park Blog (http://www.hardrockparkblog.com/) and Discover Myrtle Beach (http://www.discovermyrtlebeach.com/hardrockpark/index.cfm).


The Hard Rock Park Blog contains a review of the ride, along with pictures of Eagles Life in the Fast Lane.

Personally, I think Hard Rock Park really pulled it off, especially in the queue line for Led Zeppelin. Every update that comes out of Hard Rock Park seems to get better and better.

[Jake]

^ I don't think there can be a comparison. It is too different.

You're telling me people are not allowed to compare two firework/pyrotechnic shows?

If that is the case, then what CAN people compare?

[JonJon86]

Take it to the PMs already!

You guys are filling up this thread with your nonsense.

[Jake]

^ Oh please.

I saw a trip report over at theme park review that can be found here. (http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43136)

I have to say I'm not all that impressed with the park. Most of the rides aren't all that nice looking, as far as aesthetics are concerned, and the theming is alright but not quite what I expected. Perhaps I expected too much, but I am definitely a little underwhelmed at this point.

[Dan]

Fix your link, Jake.

I agree. But I have a feeling that I'm only underwhelmed because this is the only park I've watched closely being constructed from the ground up. Give it a few years to sprout, and let the managers see what they've done right and what they need to improve.

[Youhow2]

What theme park that you know of opens up at the Disney level? Even the disneyland and world didnt open as well as they thought it would....


Lmao guys! let the park grow! It wouldnt be fair to judge it as of yet, This is the first theme park property hard rock has owned right? Let them learn, let them grow.

[Jake]

What theme park that you know of opens up at the Disney level? Even the disneyland and world didnt open as well as they thought it would.....

The only reason that it did not open to the same level as a Disney park is because they chose to do it in that way. The theming is at a level comparable to Six Flags at best. Not that there is anything wrong with the level of theming that Six Flags has, it's fine and works for the regional park setting. But this park is a well funded destination park, or so they hope. And I would expect a bit more then what has been displayed so far for such a major park.

[p0tat0]

All I can say is...


YAY FOR COVERED QUEUES!

[Tom]

The only reason that it did not open to the same level as a Disney park is because they chose to do it in that way. The theming is at a level comparable to Six Flags at best. Not that there is anything wrong with the level of theming that Six Flags has, it's fine and works for the regional park setting. But this park is a well funded destination park, or so they hope. And I would expect a bit more then what has been displayed so far for such a major park.

This is not a Disney park this is a park dedicated to rock and roll! You can't judge a park solely on pictures mind you that. If you appreciate rock and roll you will appreciate this park for what it is. I think for opening this park is going to get rave reviews, but there are always nay-sayers who dislike it regardless.

[sirloin]

If you're going to attack Jake for using Disney in his argument, attack Youhow2 for bringing Disney up in the first place. Jake never implied it was.

And one thing pictures can tell you is the level of theming. That's about all they can tell you, besides whetting your appetite if the views of rides and such are good, but Jake's argument is valid as far as logic is concerned.

Do I agree with him? No. I think the park has done a superb job of theming thus far and they have a good mix of rides to show off, but Jake's argument doesn't really have any fallacies.

As far as a park dedicated to rock, um, why did it take until 2008 to get one of these open? Seriously? There should be a required level of awesomeness before one is permitted to enter the premises. So on that note, I'll leave you suckers with a PTR. Zing!

[Jake]

This is not a Disney park this is a park dedicated to rock and roll!

Oh? Well..um..uh.. shoot! I don't quite know what to say!





Oh wait, yes I do: Rock 'n' Roller Coaster.

Badda bing, badda boom, bye bye battuh!

[sirloin]

Jake Sundstrom, everybody! He'll be here all week. *initiates round of applause*

In all seriousness, I do not think that a Rock 'n Roller Coaster level of theming is necessarily required (despite my love affair with that ride). I think HRP has done an above-average job already, and while I will acknowledge that a RNRC level of thematics is attainable, I do not think that that level is necessary for a park of this scale.

However, Jake is still correct in that one can go to Disney levels of theming with a rock and roll concept.

[Mike T]

Keep in mind the entire park was built on 400 million dollars. Thats the equivalent of 2 Tower of Terrors and an Expedition Everest. Comparing it even more, Islands of Adventure was built on more than twice the budget and Animal Kingdom was built for 800 million. This is all before the inflation keep in mind, so 400 million 10 years ago went a lot further than it does now. Although I think there are some things that they could of done differently, I'm willing to give Hard Rock a few years to develop both naturally and as a business...

[Thrill Reconnoiter]

Comparing it even more, Islands of Adventure was built on more than twice the budget and Animal Kingdom was built for 800 million.
...and that's without Expedition Everest, Primeval Whirl and Dinorama, and a few other things.

[rollercoasterfreek]

You're telling me people are not allowed to compare two firework/pyrotechnic shows?

If that is the case, then what CAN people compare?

I was referring to Disney being so much better that it isn't even worth comparing since it is an obvious no contest.



Keep in mind the entire park was built on 400 million dollars. Thats the equivalent of 2 Tower of Terrors and an Expedition Everest. Comparing it even more, Islands of Adventure was built on more than twice the budget and Animal Kingdom was built for 800 million. This is all before the inflation keep in mind, so 400 million 10 years ago went a lot further than it does now. Although I think there are some things that they could of done differently, I'm willing to give Hard Rock a few years to develop both naturally and as a business...

I believe it can develop. I don't like seeing things in "beta" mode after first year. I like to wait to see things turn better.

[Airtime&Gravity]

This looks like a great park, and it was quite an achievement to build it in such a relatively short time. Even though it isn't as well themed as Disney or Universal, it is still nicely themed-looks between SFGAM's Southwest Territory and Busch-, and hopefully the park improves as time goes on. The rides look fun, and the park looks to have a good selection of flats. The only thing I'm concerned about is the location as it is landlocked with all the land built up. This is a park with a lot of potential, and I think the location will hurt them in the future.

Off topic, but I think i remember reading that this might turn in to a chain, and if that's true, then hopefully Chicago gets one. We have the need and the market for another major park, and I'm sure a new major park would be a success.

[Aahz]

Just returned from HRP Opening and it's wondrefully themed, IMO. It may not have as many doo-dads as Disney, but it feels like a rock 'n' roll park everywhere you go. Music is everywhere.

They actually own about three times as much land as they're currently using according to the locals so expansion is still a possibility.

And according to "one of the principals" (as he introduced himself, though I didn't get his business card), if Myrtle Beach succeeds they already have a short list of future locations. California's definitely on the list, though no others were mentioned to me.

If I lived on the East Coast or in the South I'd definetly be a regular there not even taking the amazing concerts into account.

[Steve K]

Myrtle Beach, SC - Following a month of non-stop celebration, special events and festivities, Hard Rock Park today really got the party started. In a nod to its music heritage, the Park will literally blow open the front gates to the world’s very first rock ‘n’ roll theme park, signaling to guests of all ages that this summer’s most not-to-be-missed destination is officially open and ready to rock their worlds.

Hard Rock Park’s two-day Grand Opening Extravaganza kicked off today with the “Save the Planet Invitational,” a star-studded celebrity golf tournament presented by Olsen Family Vineyards and hosted by PGA TOUR professional Peter Jacobsen. Some of the music world’s most legendary artists participated, including Darryl (DMC) McDaniels, Edwin McCain, and band members of ZZ Top, Aerosmith, Cheap Trick and Sister Hazel. The celebration will ignite with an extraordinary red carpet ceremony at the Park’s massive iron front gates, leading into an exclusive concert performance by the Eagles. The festivities continue tomorrow, June 3, with renowned British rock band, The Moody Blues, who will commemorate the official opening of the Park’s psychedelic, Moody Blues-inspired dark ride, Nights in White Satin The Trip. An unprecedented live performance from The Moody Blues, accompanied by Myrtle Beach’s Long Bay Symphony orchestra, will follow at Hard Rock Park’s Live amphitheater.

“There is no doubt about it, Hard Rock Park has arrived,” said Steven Goodwin, CEO of Hard Rock Park. “We’ve truly created an experience that the entire family can enjoy together. There is nothing else like this anywhere.”

Rockers of all ages can now enjoy the Park’s thrilling rides and attractions, including Led Zeppelin – The Ride and Eagles Life In The Fast Lane and live shows, such as Malibu Beach Party, Roadies Stunt Show and Country on the Rocks ice show.

Hard Rock Park is a 55-acre theme park boasting more than 50 attractions for rockers of all ages, including roller coasters, live shows and entertainment, children’s play areas, restaurants and retail stores.

For more information on Hard Rock Park or to purchase tickets, please visit www.hardrockpark.com (http://www.hardrockpark.com).